Aerodriver
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I'm always confused why so many Chinese members want to knock the Euro fighter. I mean why would any nation want to waste its money on an aircraft that is a deployable, maintainable multi-role, swing-role tactical fighter capable of delivering Storm Shadow, Brimstone, EPW IV and other PGMs in the A-G role, and of beating jets like the Su-30 air-to-air? What more can I say?...............apart from I just hope the UK they enable the gun.....oh and buy some ammo!!
And it is not even THAT expensive compared to the western competition.
Some figures.
Austria paid $62 m each for its Typhoons, the NAO costs UK Typhoon at £42 m each before R&D.
But not compared to the F-35, for example, which already costs some $110 m (£63 m), according to the US GAO.
And not compared to the F-15, either. Saudi paid nearly £60 m per jet for its F-15S aircraft, while Singapore paid $83 m (£47.55 m) each for its F-15s and acknowledged that the F-15SG was the most expensive of the three competing aircraft.
And then you have through life support costs. All of the latest generation jets have lower operating costs than their predecessors - Gripen claim half the life cycle cost of the F-16 (2 x purchase price rather than 4 x). Typhoon will be far cheaper over its life than obsolescent F-15s. You can do a search on the internet to read recent comments about Euro fighter’s serviceability at the "Case White" exercises.
The aerospace industry is the same in the US and the Europe (and by default the world over). The big difference is in Europe we are rubbish when it comes to putting a good spin on things. We don't sell ourselves well, the Americans do. We are too bloody honest and up front when the inevitable problems and challenges arise and because it is a multi-nation undertaking these problems are always in the open...
And with respect what exactly do you know of the euro fighter?????? The squadrons in Europe will only be what is called block 5 in 2007, i.e. to full specifications and apart from Italy that operated some for QRA they will not even be operational in the Air - Air role until next year (at best),
The only people to have flown both the EF and F-22 are test pilots, and I believe that is where the quote 90% of f-22 at 50% cost came from.
The only legitimate thing as far as I can see is that the aircraft is 4 years too late and that (sorry ger_mark) was clearly the fault of the Germans. Any other bad things people have to say about the typhoon/EF, please do not waste your breath because frankly most people have no idea of its true capabilities.
And it is not even THAT expensive compared to the western competition.
Some figures.
Austria paid $62 m each for its Typhoons, the NAO costs UK Typhoon at £42 m each before R&D.
But not compared to the F-35, for example, which already costs some $110 m (£63 m), according to the US GAO.
And not compared to the F-15, either. Saudi paid nearly £60 m per jet for its F-15S aircraft, while Singapore paid $83 m (£47.55 m) each for its F-15s and acknowledged that the F-15SG was the most expensive of the three competing aircraft.
And then you have through life support costs. All of the latest generation jets have lower operating costs than their predecessors - Gripen claim half the life cycle cost of the F-16 (2 x purchase price rather than 4 x). Typhoon will be far cheaper over its life than obsolescent F-15s. You can do a search on the internet to read recent comments about Euro fighter’s serviceability at the "Case White" exercises.
The aerospace industry is the same in the US and the Europe (and by default the world over). The big difference is in Europe we are rubbish when it comes to putting a good spin on things. We don't sell ourselves well, the Americans do. We are too bloody honest and up front when the inevitable problems and challenges arise and because it is a multi-nation undertaking these problems are always in the open...
And with respect what exactly do you know of the euro fighter?????? The squadrons in Europe will only be what is called block 5 in 2007, i.e. to full specifications and apart from Italy that operated some for QRA they will not even be operational in the Air - Air role until next year (at best),
The only people to have flown both the EF and F-22 are test pilots, and I believe that is where the quote 90% of f-22 at 50% cost came from.
The only legitimate thing as far as I can see is that the aircraft is 4 years too late and that (sorry ger_mark) was clearly the fault of the Germans. Any other bad things people have to say about the typhoon/EF, please do not waste your breath because frankly most people have no idea of its true capabilities.
