China ICBM/SLBM, nuclear arms thread

gpt

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The Peacekeeper was the last truly credible land-based deterrent but they no longer have the tooling due to consolidation and atrophy of the SRM industry. Peacekeeper used an SR118 first stage manufactured by Thiokol (now NG), SR119 second stage by Aerojet and SR120 third stage by Hercules (now NG). NG is simply refurbishing them and it still flies as the Minotaur IV rocket.

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Sentinel is somewhere between Minuteman III and Peacekeeper.
 

gelgoog

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They let the solid rocket industry atrophy. Part of the reason for having SRMs in the Shuttle was to indirectly fund the solid rocket industry so there would be one in case they needed to redesign the ballistic missiles. For a long time there was also a policy to have at least two solid rocket companies, Aerojet and Thiokol, by throwing some work at them. The Delta rockets used Thiokol GEM boosters, and the Atlas rockets used Aerojet boosters. Then they merged both space companies into ULA, and the Vulcan rocket chose Thiokol. Shuttle is gone, and SpaceX does not use solids. There is SLS which does use solids, but they are by Thiokol, and just a minor modification of the Shuttle solids, yet they took forever to design and make them. Today you have basically Thiokol as a monopoly and that is it.

In theory with modern know-how you could design higher performance solids. You have denser explosives like CL-20. But I kind of doubt that will happen. It would balloon the cost even more since the industry to produce CL-20 at that kind of scale in the US does not exist.
 

Kalec

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China about to have three ICBM launch windows in the early morning of 10/25/2024.

A typical ICBM launch from Taiyuan or Jilantai, shame they don't continue to launch into the Pacific Ocean.

The launch notable comes with five NOTAM zones with three of them overlapping together and the impact point is Minfeng ICBM impact zone.

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Notam data:
Another ICBM test with exactly same NOTAM coming up tomorrow.

The NOTAM is so identical that I don't need to draw another launch map lol.

NOTAM info for comparison:

Oct 25 launch:

A3519/24 NOTAMN
Q) ZLHW/QRDCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/3940N10119E030
A) ZLHW B) 2410250022 C) 2410250529
D) 0022-0120 0451-0529
E) A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N392509E1004505-N395207E1004258-N395502E1015300-N392803E1015440,
BACK TO START.
VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL.
F) SFC G) UNL

Nov 8 launch:

A3801/24 NOTAMN
Q) ZLHW/QRDCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/3940N10119E030
A) ZLHW B) 2411080159 C) 2411080748
D) 0159-0219,0727-0748
E) A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N392509E1004505-N395207E1004258-N395502E1015300-N392803E1015440,
BACK TO START.
VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL.
F) SFC G) UNL
 
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