China ICBM/SLBM, nuclear arms thread

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Or like US military brass used to say to visiting Chinese brass that the US would "win" in a full blown nuclear war with China.

Given that China overall has higher value (economy, productivity, population number) than US, in a way, these statements make sense. China has more to lose.

But US' value isn't insignificant either. They're not India or North Korea where even the elite live kinda shit lives. So I think it's purely empty bluffing to throw China's politicians off course.

 

[coolgod]

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Russian nuclear test chief says Moscow is ready to resume testing 'at any moment'​

• Russia last carried out a nuclear test in 1990
• Russian think-tank wants Putin to order a test to cow West
• Test is possible response to missiles for Ukraine-analysts
• Resuming testing could spur new nuclear arms race

Sept 17 (Reuters) - The head of Russia's nuclear testing site said on Tuesday his secretive facility was ready to resume nuclear tests "at any moment" if Moscow gave the order, in rare comments likely to fuel concerns that the risk of such a step is rising.
Moscow has not conducted a nuclear weapons test since 1990, the year before the fall of the Soviet Union, but

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say President Vladimir Putin could order one to try to send a message of deterrence to the West if it lets Ukraine use its long-range missiles to strike Russia, something that is under discussion.

A nuclear test by Russia could encourage others such as China or the United States to follow suit, starting a new nuclear arms race between the big powers, which stopped nuclear testing in the years after the Soviet collapse.
Russia's testing site, located on the remote Novaya Zemlya archipelago in the Arctic Ocean, was where the Soviet Union conducted more than 200 nuclear tests, including the detonation of the world's most powerful nuclear bomb ever in 1961.

It is closely watched by Western spy satellites for activity amid signs of construction work last summer shown in open-source satellite images.
Rear Admiral Andrei Sinitsyn, the head of the facility, gave a rare interview to Rossiyskaya Gazeta, the Russian government's official newspaper, which was published on Tuesday, days after Putin

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it would be directly fighting with Russia if it allowed Ukraine to strike Russian territory with Western-made long-range missiles and spoke of retaliation.

"The test site is ready for resumption of full-scale testing activities. It is ready in its entirety. Laboratory and testing facilities are ready. The personnel are ready. If the order comes, we can start testing at any moment," said Sinitsyn.

Is China ready for nuclear tests? I recalled we had a discussion previously that Chinese's old nuclear test sites isn't suitable anymore. Is there any info on Chinese potential test sites?

 

[Hub]

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Russian nuclear test chief says Moscow is ready to resume testing 'at any moment'​

• Russia last carried out a nuclear test in 1990
• Russian think-tank wants Putin to order a test to cow West
• Test is possible response to missiles for Ukraine-analysts
• Resuming testing could spur new nuclear arms race

Is China ready for nuclear tests? I recalled we had a discussion previously that Chinese's old nuclear test sites isn't suitable anymore. Is there any info on Chinese potential test sites?

China will cheer the resumption of nuclear testing after Russia and the United States did it.

 

[Ironhide]

Russian nuclear test chief says Moscow is ready to resume testing

Attention to "zero-yield moratorium" in this State Dept release

The word is Russians have already been testing at very low yield and China is either planning or already has tested at same yield (rumours obviously)

Nonetheless China stands to gain the most If tests start (officially) as Acton and co have pointed out

 

[coolgod]

Attention to "zero-yield moratorium" in this State Dept release

The word is Russians have already been testing at very low yield and China is either planning or already has tested at same yield (rumours obviously)

Nonetheless China stands to gain the most If tests start (officially) as Acton and co have pointed out

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I don't get why zero yield implies Russia has already tested low yields. I see why "the global norm against testing - a norm other nations are now putting at risk" might be interpreted differently, still hard to say though.

If China has already tested low yield weapons, that's great. If not I hope they test a lot if opportunities arise. I'm just curious where would it be though? Still underground at Lop Nur?

I just assumed the recent announcement about nuclear five meeting implies nuclear testing might resume soon given the warning articles published a few months ago. I don't think this upcoming working meeting has anything to do with Israel or Iran.

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Russia confirms ongoing work among ‘Nuclear Five’​

 

[Ironhide]

Still underground at Lop Nur?

Likely as they have renovated/upgraded the site and underground tests can also be conducted with the existing infra

 

[coolgod]

This TV series recently started to broadcast on Russian TV.

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NATO to hold annual nuclear drill from Monday, alliance chief Rutte says​

LONDON, Oct 10 (Reuters) - NATO will begin its annual nuclear exercise on Monday, alliance Secretary General Mark Rutte said on Thursday, against a backdrop of heightened nuclear rhetoric from Russian President

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.

F-35A fighter jets and B-52 bombers will be among some 60 aircraft from 13 nations taking part in the Steadfast Noon exercise, hosted by Belgium and The Netherlands, NATO officials said.

"In an uncertain world it is vital that we test our defence and that we strengthen our defence so that our adversaries know that NATO is ready, and is able to respond to any threat," Rutte said in London following meetings with Prime Minister Keir Starmer and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

"The whole exercise will particularly focus on the United Kingdom, the North Sea, but also Belgium and the Netherlands," he added.

Just some propaganda to raise tensions on both sides recently.

 

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Russian nuclear test chief says Moscow is ready to resume testing 'at any moment'​

• Russia last carried out a nuclear test in 1990
• Russian think-tank wants Putin to order a test to cow West
• Test is possible response to missiles for Ukraine-analysts
• Resuming testing could spur new nuclear arms race

Is China ready for nuclear tests? I recalled we had a discussion previously that Chinese's old nuclear test sites isn't suitable anymore. Is there any info on Chinese potential test sites?

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[gelgoog]

Attention to "zero-yield moratorium" in this State Dept release
The word is Russians have already been testing at very low yield and China is either planning or already has tested at same yield (rumours obviously)
Nonetheless China stands to gain the most If tests start (officially) as Acton and co have pointed out

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Interesting thing for the US administration to say, since they were the ones who resumed subcritical tests in the first place.

 

[BoraTas]

Attention to "zero-yield moratorium" in this State Dept release

The word is Russians have already been testing at very low yield and China is either planning or already has tested at same yield (rumours obviously)

Nonetheless China stands to gain the most If tests start (officially) as Acton and co have pointed out

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Subcritical tests are being done by all nuclear armed countries. Also, there is nothing in that message that implies Russia has conducted a critical test.