AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
And when it comes to Chinese consumers, they buy the foreign cars because of the brand not the actual quality.
Which countries have the best land/positioning?
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MiG-29
Banned Idiot
do you really believe that?
Any consumer buys because of price and quality, regardless of nationality, that is the reason Chinese brands do joint venturs to get the technology.
China will develop car brands like Japan or South Korea, but their success depend in price affordability and quality.
Chinese cars at this moment do not have good reputation but sooner or later they will achieve quality,
but in terms of competition you can expect the same from European, American, Indian, Brazilian or Russian or japanese brands.
These common markets are basicly protectionism and modern colonialism, but also force the corepowers to share some of their success.
But technology is not the only thing to do have a good after service and sales strategy is important, this has kept South American car makers fom go beyond their domestic markets and become real world players, Brazil plans UNASUR will guarantee Brazilian goods a natural market
here is the story of Gurgel a brazilian car maker that did not make it
[video=youtube;-kkGUA73E-c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kkGUA73E-c&feature=related[/video]
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AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Well it tells you something when those foreign cars are made by the domestic manufacturers of domestic brands.
MiG-29
Banned Idiot
I do not thik Chinese car manufacturers are doing something wrong, but i do not think they are particularly special, most emerging markets do follow similar strategies.
See Marcopolo from Brazil, today they are a relatively small company, but they are the third largest coach maker in the world, today they have a joint venture with TATA in India,
Today they manufacture buses in Argentina, Russia, Mexico, India, Portugal and South Africa and of course Brazil, without quality they won`t remain competitive in any maket including the Brazilian one
[video=youtube;e9S_i9we1-U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9S_i9we1-U[/video]
Today the largest coach factory in the world is in India and is owned by Marcopolo from Brazil and Tata from India
solarz
Brigadier
I think what you know about China is only from news and media soundbites. The picture on the ground is quite different.
For example, did you know that most of the assembly plants of those "foreign" car makers are jointly owned by themselves and Chinese state enterprises? Volkswagon is a good example of this: .
And yes, Chinese consumers do prize brands over quality. How else do you explain Chinese buying 20,000 RMB Louis Vuitton handbags?
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AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Never said they were doing anything wrong. But if the Chinese comsumer buys the foreign brand over the domestic brand when they're all manufactured by the same domestic company, that says brand is more a factor than actual quality.
MiG-29
Banned Idiot
that happens everywhere in the world is not unique, i will put you an example, in Mexico Sony builds playstations, but some of the playstation is build in Mexico by a Mexican company named Lanix.
Today LANIX is able to make from I phones to slab computers.
Does it mean foreing Brands still do not care about quality? or LANIX does not care about quality?
Chinese car makes do care, but they need to improve quality because everybody is doing it.
Iphone by LANIX a mexican computer maker
[video=youtube;cXAOFiOnbmY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXAOFiOnbmY[/video]
LANIX tablet computer designed in Mexico
[video=youtube;LZQ7uj6FsuU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZQ7uj6FsuU&feature=relmfu[/video]
i have a emachines computer from China the quality is okay i like it i am now a Emachine`s customer but i won`t buy any chinese good that breaks fast
I'll attempt to get this back on topic and say Australia would have to be a contender, along with Canada (And not just because I am an Aussie.
)Australia is one of a few countries that does not share a common boarder with another nation. Which is fortunate given our small but effective military which punches above it's weight/size/budget.
The Australian $ has parity with the US $ and China is our biggest trading partner. The country is rich with minerals and is positioned at the door step to Asia with access to approx 50% of the worlds population.
The land mass populated is approx 1% and is high in usefulness with the diversity of climate, terrain, soil types etc. In the past we have fed not only ourselves but exported to other nations as well. The country has over 25,000kms of pristine coast line and the land mass is approx 7.5 million sq kms which sit between 3 oceans and 4 seas with an ocean territory of approx 12 million sq kms.
The down side we do suffer from natural disasters especially bushfires, cyclones and floods. Also wherever you go in the bush there is usually something that can kill you. But earthquakes are rare.
And we make good beer!
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
The one key aspect of Austrailia that doesn't put it up there is people. Too few.