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Okay great, well I think in 30 years China and the US are going to merge so therefore in 30 years Asia will be the core of the world economy.

You are basing all your talk on theorycraft. There is absolutely no solid evidence to indicate that the US/Canada/Europe/Mexico or whatever are going to merge. like wtf where do you even get that sort of nonsense.

I base mine on statistics. The fact is Asia is growing at an alarming rate. By 2040 it will already be FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR superior than North America or Europe in possibly every single field.

You keep talking about politics. To me European leaders are a bunch of dumb nuts. They have a huge part in the current global economic crisis. Then you look at Asia and China and Japan have the 2 biggest Foreign reserves in the world.

I don't know what Russia + USSR or South America had too do with any of this. Seems like you just decided to chuck it into the mixing bowl.

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Okay great, well I think in 30 years China and the US are going to merge so therefore in 30 years Asia will be the core of the world economy.

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it might seem far fetch but yeah all we are going to have a world government, so yes the US and China will merge, but first NAFTA or North American Union will happen, mercosur(UNASUR) will merge.

But i do not think Asia will be the core of the world economy.

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NAFTA equals around 450 million people, 340 are high income (canada and US) the other member Mexico is a middle income country in the class of Russia.

Add perhap another 100 million people with central america and you get near 550 million people this last 100 million people are low to middle income but can growth at high rates.


India is one billion + people.

Europe is 450 million people but they already control de mediterraneum, see Libya`s case, NATO controls north Africa.


so if you see we are not talking of nations any more but economic blocks.

Russia won`t relinquish to Ukraine or Belarus, they are still part of CIS, sooner or later will hook those two nations to its own sphere of Influence.

China`s case is different they potentially lead north asia, but i do not think it is possible at least now, it could happen but Japan, South Korea and Taiwan are allied to the US and Vietnam and Philipines are the same.

But China like india does not need allies it has enough population to be a block by it self.

So it is unlikely the process of globalization will start with a US China Union, but more likely as a US lead block in North America, a Russia lead block in the CIS.

But yeah eventually the commerce will force the US, China or Russia to create a common block for all nations.

read about NAFTA

and about the north American Union



NAFTA is not a theoretical entity it does exist, like UNASUR

These are economic blocks to protect a core nation, NAFTA is a US lead block like UNASUR is Brazilian lead block to create a Brazilian buffer zone and satellite region of infleunce in south America.

Ok, I am no longer taking your posts seriously lol.

legoboy said:

Ok, I am no longer taking your posts seriously lol.

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okay you can do it, but read about what is UNASUR, and and i can assure you in 20 to 30 years from now the US will create its own block, in fact it already has created it, 80% of Mexico`s commerce is with the US, and canada has already a dollar parity.


Mexico is the United States’ second largest export market resulting in over USD 850 million of trade taking place each day. U.S.-manufactured products enjoy duty free import benefits under the North American Free Trade Agreement giving



•The U.S. receives 70.2 percent of Canadian goods and services, and 61.7 percent of Canada’s goods and services imports come from the U.S


For the US exports are important and the largests export markets as single countries are Mexico and Canada, so the US needs these two nations to buy its goods as such are part of the US sphere of influence


If you think the world won`t change it is okay, but remember the world is changing, political borders are not fixed, they do not remain the same, and the evidence in North and South America points to economic unions first as free trades, later as common currency and later as political unions.

South american already has two free trade areas Mercosur and CAN, and the goal of Mercosur is abolish hindrance to internal commerce.

But okay you are free to believe what ever you think is true.

legoboy said:

Okay great, well I think in 30 years China and the US are going to merge so therefore in 30 years Asia will be the core of the world economy.

You are basing all your talk on theorycraft. There is absolutely no solid evidence to indicate that the US/Canada/Europe/Mexico or whatever are going to merge. like wtf where do you even get that sort of nonsense.

I base mine on statistics. The fact is Asia is growing at an alarming rate. By 2040 it will already be FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR superior than North America or Europe in possibly every single field.

You keep talking about politics. To me European leaders are a bunch of dumb nuts. They have a huge part in the current global economic crisis. Then you look at Asia and China and Japan have the 2 biggest Foreign reserves in the world.

I don't know what Russia + USSR or South America had too do with any of this. Seems like you just decided to chuck it into the mixing bowl.

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Your extrapolation is flawed as you assume a straight line up with no dips, no events, nothing but growth in China and mediocre growth in the US, Europe, etc. in a period of 30 years, that is a very very flawed assumption.

There is nothing inherently advantageous in any nation's geographical location.

The US has a good position in North America *today* because it is united and regionally dominant. This was not always the case. Some 200 years ago, the US consisted of only a fraction of its current territory, and was warring against both Mexico and Canada.

Both Japan and UK are island nations that are poor in natural resources, yet both experienced periods of aggressive expansion that made them dominant powers in the world for a time.

The Mongols had nothing but horses and grasslands, yet they managed to conquer the largest land-based empire in history.

Ancient Egyptians lived in a desert and their survival depended on the caprices of a river that flooded yearly. Yet, they were able to construct vast stone monuments at a time when most of humanity were still hunter-gatherer tribes.

Re: There is nothing inherently advantageous in any nation's geographical location.

solarz said:

The US has a good position in North America *today* because it is united and regionally dominant. This was not always the case. Some 200 years ago, the US consisted of only a fraction of its current territory, and was warring against both Mexico and Canada.

Both Japan and UK are island nations that are poor in natural resources, yet both experienced periods of aggressive expansion that made them dominant powers in the world for a time.

The Mongols had nothing but horses and grasslands, yet they managed to conquer the largest land-based empire in history.

Ancient Egyptians lived in a desert and their survival depended on the caprices of a river that flooded yearly. Yet, they were able to construct vast stone monuments at a time when most of humanity were still hunter-gatherer tribes.

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you are absolutely right, Geography plays a role in the history of a nation but is not the dominant factor.

The dominant factor is technology and its subsequent development as commerce.
Technology is a factor that is more ramdom and difficult to explain, because all humans we have ideas.

In the case of the US considering the European history everything is related to freedom of thought, Spain and Portugal imposed a closer view of the world than England, this was a result of catholism.

The US and Canada are mainly protestant countries, while Brazil, Mexico or Argentina are mainly catholic.

So all portuguese or Spanish colonies imposed a very strict immigration policy where only catolics were allowed to immigrate to the Americas.

While the US and England were more open to the renaissance, the industrial revolution and scientific thought thanks to a more open view product of reformation.

Another factor was all the spanish colonies developed political desintegration the spanish empire spawned many nations while Brazil the only portuguese colony never desintegrated.

The same happned to the 13 british colonies they remained united, therfore the USA and Canada are the only colonies in the Americas the British had.

however today`s reality pushes the south american former spanish and portuguese colonies of South america for a political union.

I do not know if you can read and understand soanish but i do and these videos are a reflect of that.[video=youtube;yiZk0zgMleE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiZk0zgMleE&feature=related[/video] [video=youtube;_Oas_GcW9yk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Oas_GcW9yk&feature=related[/video] [video=youtube;z47VvDBYUIQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z47VvDBYUIQ&feature=related[/video]

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I should watch it next time.


BTW, I know that you are a real sailor. Are you on a carrier or just a ship?

I almost joined the Navy as an FC or ET, however, the contract was 7 years, so I backed out.

Now I am an engineer at Raytheon.

Would you guys change your views, given the recent developments of the Trans-Pacific Strategic Economic Partnership (TTP Agreement). This is basically a multilateral free trade agreement, which started out very small, with only Brunei, Chile, New Zealand and Singapore in 2005. But by 2011, it has turned or being turned into a major free trade agreement, with the US, Japan, Australia, Malaysia, Vietnam all having expressed a wish to join and are now negotiating, and the US have requested Korea to join the TPP as well.

Many analysts are commenting that the US is actually using this piece of agreement as a way to "come back to Asia" and to a certain extent, provide a way to contain China economically. If this agreement does happen, together with the renewed military alliance between the US and Australia, it does seem to put China in a dire position.

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