Type 95 Assault Rifle II

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Re: Type 95 assault rifle

TerraN_EmpirE said:
XM-8 is Dead ( it's official) . no official notification has been made as to the adoption of the Ultimax 100. the biggest problem with the mini box is all the damned racket that thing makes. the "Nut sacks" 100 round bags that hold ammo belts are popular because of there light weight and stealthiness when raiding. the Us forces are phasing in a 200 round "Soft pack"
Mounting a drum under a bullpup is foolish and i doubt a real comfort to the troops.
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Also, the Beta-C drum causes reliability issues with weapons. A fully loaded Beta-C drum is a lot of weight on the magazine well, which causes feed problems and eventual jams with rifles. Also, the drum has to be very clean, as it often fouls up in dirty conditions which is not good for combat, as your weapon and magazines WILL get dirty.
 
TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

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another problem with Cmags is the heat, I have heard a lot of complaints about G36c's melting under the heat of continued fire from a Cmag factor in the issues the Chinese army has already brought up ( IE powder burns, noise and handling issues when fired from the cheek) would only be made worse.
 
Chengdu J-10

Chengdu J-10

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XM8 is dead it failed to replace the M4/16 rifles.
The thing is that Chinese drum magazine are known to be noisy with a loud rattling noise when being fired. Having a drum magazine onto a bullpup wouldn't be comfortable for the soldiers. Shooting while standing is alright but when prone it is hard to fire the rifle with some degree of accuracy.

The British have known this trait of attaching drum magazine to a bullpup with the L85. Reports indicated that soldier using the L85 LSW would rather use the less ammunition 30 round magazine then the drum magazine. Cause it was more accurate when fired from prone position and was easier to wield. And so the L85 LSW used the 30 round magazine instead of the 75-100 round drum magazine.

Chinese have solved the pistol and assault rifle issue, but still have the LMG or SAW to sort out. The sniper issue is being fixed currently issuing the 5 round bolt action JS 7.62mm not to be confused with the JS 12.7mm.
 
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TerraN_EmpirE

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Re: Type 95 assault rifle

Chengdu J-10 said:
XM8 is dead it failed to replace the M4/16 rifles.
The thing is that Chinese drum magazine are known to be noisy with a loud rattling noise when being fired. Having a drum magazine onto a bullpup wouldn't be comfortable for the soldiers. Shooting while standing is alright but when prone it is hard to fire the rifle with some degree of accuracy.

The British have known this trait of attaching drum magazine to a bullpup with the L85. Reports indicated that soldier using the L85 LSW would rather use the less ammunition 30 round magazine then the drum magazine. Cause it was more accurate when fired from prone position and was easier to wield. And so the L85 LSW used the 30 round magazine instead of the 75-100 round drum magazine.

Chinese have solved the pistol and assault rifle issue, but still have the LMG or SAW to sort out. The sniper issue is being fixed currently issuing the 5 round bolt action JS 7.62mm not to be confused with the JS 12.7mm.
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For some reason I doubt that they have solved to many of the problems with the type 95 rifles and prone is not the only position in which the ear is near the ejection port shooting from the shoulder is the other main position of accuracy and that was causing trouble too. although not having a full modern GPMG or true SAW is going to be trouble.

Use of a SAW and GPMG are in most cases two different things a GPMG is mounted on a vehicles or fixed position well a SAW has to be light and go with the troops preferably from behind to cover there advance. the Single unit option is not it.

Using a bolt acting is not a bad thing nor is having a weapon like the type 88 here in the US the army and Marines have begun mixing in a Squad designated marksman with a modified M16A2 to give it's unite even more accuracy over the insurgent's the Weapons designated a SDM-R and SAM-R are the same caliber as the regular issue but had the selective fire sear removed and a higher quality barrel installed. although it seems that the next generation of true sniper system's are semi autos in 7.62 with longer work going perhaps to bolt guns in a heaver caliber fallowed by Barret sized fifty .
 
Chengdu J-10

Chengdu J-10

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Re: Type 95 assault rifle

TerraN_EmpirE said:
For some reason I doubt that they have solved to many of the problems with the type 95 rifles and prone is not the only position in which the ear is near the ejection port shooting from the shoulder is the other main position of accuracy and that was causing trouble too. although not having a full modern GPMG or true SAW is going to be trouble.

Use of a SAW and GPMG are in most cases two different things a GPMG is mounted on a vehicles or fixed position well a SAW has to be light and go with the troops preferably from behind to cover there advance. the Single unit option is not it.

Using a bolt acting is not a bad thing nor is having a weapon like the type 88 here in the US the army and Marines have begun mixing in a Squad designated marksman with a modified M16A2 to give it's unite even more accuracy over the insurgent's the Weapons designated a SDM-R and SAM-R are the same caliber as the regular issue but had the selective fire sear removed and a higher quality barrel installed. although it seems that the next generation of true sniper system's are semi autos in 7.62 with longer work going perhaps to bolt guns in a heaver caliber fallowed by Barret sized fifty .
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Haha funny I never talked about the ejection port near the shooters ear, so I have no idea were you got that bit from my last post. But oh well never mind. DSM doesnt give you true accuracy it increases the range in which squads can project. So the DSM M-16 isnt more accurate then the M-16 but moreso can reach in visual cause of scope etc.

Bolt action will always be in future small arms arsenal no matter what. Bolt action have pro in which semi auto cannot be as effective. And vis versa.

Large 12.7mm AT rifle uses mostly semi auto. China has always been missing a true dedicated sniper rifle using bolt action. And finally it seems they will get it. Better late then never. Type 95 really doesnt have many flaws that effect the PLA troops, they are taught only to fire right handed, ejection port issue is common in most bullpup so yeah, only thing that i would change is to have a removable handle to allow opticals so that the soldiers head exposure is reduced.

But yeah it will be good to see the new small arms weaponary of the future.
 
Gollevainen

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Type 95 really doesnt have many flaws that effect the PLA troops, they are taught only to fire right handed, ejection port issue is common in most bullpup so yeah, only thing that i would change is to have a removable handle to allow opticals so that the soldiers head exposure is reduced.
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But the thing is you cannot teach left handed persons to shoot accurate from right side. Only way is to teach left handed persons from the day of their birth to use right hand but thats IMO brutal and still doesen't work...you just cannot mess around with brains.
So all left handed persons will have serious defaults if the standart rifle is suitable only for right-handed persons.

...I'm lefthanded sports-shooter myself so I know exactly how hard it is...you can try it yourself tough, just try to shoot and hit something from your left side, its exactly the same...
 
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Re: Type 95 assault rifle

Gollevainen said:
But the thing is you cannot teach left handed persons to shoot accurate from right side. Only way is to teach left handed persons from the day of their birth to use right hand but thats IMO brutal and still doesen't work...you just cannot mess around with brains.
So all left handed persons will have serious defaults if the standart rifle is suitable only for right-handed persons.

...I'm lefthanded sports-shooter myself so I know exactly how hard it is...you can try it yourself tough, just try to shoot and hit something from your left side, its exactly the same...
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in china, if you cant shoot the type 95 right handed, you won't. its not like the famas or aug where its the standard rifle for those nations. Having a type 95 is only a privilige to some elite soldiers. most ordinary soldiers cant use it, since its too expensive.
 
Gollevainen

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so left-handed are automatically excluded from elite units??
Really wise... But make it to come future standard weapon is severly hampered if not all can use it, thats the point I've making
 
TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

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Over specialize and you breed in weakness.

I got that ejection port number form the original information profile as well as a few other materials I have read on the type 95 rifle. the AUG and Famas have kits and modifications to correct the rifle for south paws and the Range of SDM-R M16 is no grater then the range of a regular M16A4. the your thinking of the Russian Dragonov system which was used to make up for the short range AK.
 
Chengdu J-10

Chengdu J-10

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Re: Type 95 assault rifle

Gollevainen said:
But the thing is you cannot teach left handed persons to shoot accurate from right side. Only way is to teach left handed persons from the day of their birth to use right hand but thats IMO brutal and still doesen't work...you just cannot mess around with brains.
So all left handed persons will have serious defaults if the standart rifle is suitable only for right-handed persons.

...I'm lefthanded sports-shooter myself so I know exactly how hard it is...you can try it yourself tough, just try to shoot and hit something from your left side, its exactly the same...
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In China it really isnt that much of a problem between left and right. Cause at birth most parents encourage their children to use their right hand instead of left. So most of the PLA troops are right handed shooters. And with this exclution of left handed shooters in the PLA Elite Units. BS. Left handed shooters yes be not be able to use the Type 95 but you shall never let talent go to waste. For left handed shooters in the PLA Elite they would be equipped with the submachine gun Type 85. Which is an ambo weapon.
 
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