Type 95 Assault Rifle II

zaky

zaky

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Re: Type 95 assault rifle

Yes. You are all right, the 5.8 X 42 mm heavy and normal rounds are interchangeable, but probably in emergency situation, like the M193 and SS109. This mean you always must to mention precisely which one do you need.
I am interested how fine working a Type 95 with heavy round?
The M193 and SS109 make problems for the western users because the precision decrease when they use different rounds for different weapons.
I am concern about the introduction of the 5.8x21mm DAP92-5.8 round with the same caliber. Probably it is god cartage with identical parameters like the 5.7x28 mm SS190 and 4.6x30mm rounds, but makes room for interpretation when you ask supply.
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Scratch

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Re: Type 95 assault rifle

The M193 catrige was the first version of 5,56mm rounds in NATO, although it's still in the stocks it wouldn't be accepted for new purchases, since it doesn't meet NATO specs. The SS109 is the currently official NATO round. The projectile is heavier than that of the M193 giving it better ballistic characteristics. There are new developments with an even heavier bullet and a hardened nose-tip. This is to be used in SAWs, since these cover greater ranges and are ment to have little more penetration. However I was no infantryman, maybe another member can give a better explanation.
This leads me to the Type 95. The QBB 95 is the LMG (light machine gun) version of that rifle, and it's the only type 95 to use the heavy round. If I'm correct.
Those relatively new small calibers for SMGs are ment to to provide (relative) high penetration power on short distances while having lesser recoil. Perhaps it's the same prijectiles as in the assault rifle round, just on a smaller chamebr.
 
Red not Dead

Red not Dead

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Scratch said:
The M193 catrige was the first version of 5,56mm rounds in NATO, although it's still in the stocks it wouldn't be accepted for new purchases, since it doesn't meet NATO specs. The SS109 is the currently official NATO round. The projectile is heavier than that of the M193 giving it better ballistic characteristics. There are new developments with an even heavier bullet and a hardened nose-tip. This is to be used in SAWs, since these cover greater ranges and are ment to have little more penetration. However I was no infantryman, maybe another member can give a better explanation.
This leads me to the Type 95. The QBB 95 is the LMG (light machine gun) version of that rifle, and it's the only type 95 to use the heavy round. If I'm correct.
Those relatively new small calibers for SMGs are ment to to provide (relative) high penetration power on short distances while having lesser recoil. Perhaps it's the same prijectiles as in the assault rifle round, just on a smaller chamebr.
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SS actually is the m855 (SS-x is a STANAG code, m-x a Us nomancature code)
 
Chengdu J-10

Chengdu J-10

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I keep hearing people saying that the QBB-95 LSW is mean't to fill in role simular to M249 SAW. But the QBB-95 LSW only has a drum magazine of 75 rounds with a range of 600m. While the M249 SAW has magazine of 200 rounds with a range of 1000m. So I don't see how the QBB-95 LSW is mean't be the role of M249 SAW. When M249 SAW has nearly x3 the amount of ammo and the suppressive range of the M249 SAW is about 400m greater. So just don't see how the QBB-95 LSW is an equvilant SAW like the M249. I know since its a bullpup it will be difficult to operate with a magazine of 200 rounds behind the trigger since then it will be rear heavey. Since the other SAW in the PLA such as the Type 80 is getting old is there another variant to fill in the SAW?
 
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ahho

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Re: Type 95 assault rifle

Chengdu J-10 said:
I keep hearing people saying that the QBB-95 LSW is mean't to fill in role simular to M249 SAW. But the QBB-95 LSW only has a drum magazine of 75 rounds with a range of 600m. While the M249 SAW has magazine of 200 rounds with a range of 1000m. So I don't see how the QBB-95 LSW is mean't be the role of M249 SAW. When M249 SAW has nearly x3 the amount of ammo and the suppressive range of the M249 SAW is about 400m greater. So just don't see how the QBB-95 LSW is an equvilant SAW like the M249. I know since its a bullpup it will be difficult to operate with a magazine of 200 rounds behind the trigger since then it will be rear heavey. Since the other SAW in the PLA such as the Type 80 is getting old is there another variant to fill in the SAW?
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but i don't think there is a point to have a KM range for saw. all its purpose was to surpress the enemy just like drum belt of mg-34. IMO anything beyond the range reaching 1 km should require a heavier MG to do the job.
 
Chengdu J-10

Chengdu J-10

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Re: Type 95 assault rifle

Yeah range was only one factor but I'm more concerned about its round capacity with only 75 rounds as a LSW it'll be fired in a blink of an eye. As to the 200 rounds of the M249.
 
Chengdu J-10

Chengdu J-10

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Always been curious about this but what significant difference in advantage and disadvantage off the magazine port. Referring to the AK-47 rock n roll magazine insertion and the M-16 push n clip. Is they actually and performance differences? And if so why does the PLA use the AK-47 magazine insertion style for the Type-95 instead of the M-16 method.
 
SteelBird

SteelBird

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Re: Type 95 assault rifle

Chengdu J-10 said:
Always been curious about this but what significant difference in advantage and disadvantage off the magazine port. Referring to the AK-47 rock n roll magazine insertion and the M-16 push n clip. Is they actually and performance differences? And if so why does the PLA use the AK-47 magazine insertion style for the Type-95 instead of the M-16 method.
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AK-47 and M-16 are the two most popular rifles in the world, and the only two types of rifles that I've ever touched.

In my opion, the standard method of changing magazine of the AK-47 is using your right hand, and the M-16 is using your right hand to push and drop used magazine and the left hand to insert a new one. M-16 is obviously faster. To me, the mechanism of such a design is more complex and hard to produce and maintenance. One more reason might be the tradition of using AK-47 type of rifles in China.
 
King_Comm

King_Comm

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Re: Type 95 assault rifle

Chengdu J-10 said:
Yeah range was only one factor but I'm more concerned about its round capacity with only 75 rounds as a LSW it'll be fired in a blink of an eye. As to the 200 rounds of the M249.
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==If the Chinese do inherit the Soviet doctrine of of having sustained automatic fire as the main mode of fire, then the small capacity of QBB-95 wouldn't really be an issue because the entire squad, 7 or 8 Type 95's and 2 LSW's would be firing full auto laying suppressive fire, unlike an M-16 and SAW armed squad where only the SAW fires full auto. And a shorter lighter weapon allow quick movement, firing on the move, and quicker mounting and dismounting vehicles.
 
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Pointblank

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Re: Type 95 assault rifle

King_Comm said:
==If the Chinese do inherit the Soviet doctrine of of having sustained automatic fire as the main mode of fire, then the small capacity of QBB-95 wouldn't really be an issue because the entire squad, 7 or 8 Type 95's and 2 LSW's would be firing full auto laying suppressive fire, unlike an M-16 and SAW armed squad where only the SAW fires full auto. And a shorter lighter weapon allow quick movement, firing on the move, and quicker mounting and dismounting vehicles.
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This would require additional training on part of the troops on how to aim and fire accurately when firing in automatic mode, and not waste ammunition. With the squad automatic weapon concept, only a few people receive this additional training, reducing training costs, plus the squad as a whole can extend their ammunition supply while carrying less ammunition. A dedicated SAW is also more reliable as assault rifles in order to be practical has to be lightweight is therefore prone to overheat or malfunction under the stresses of continuous fully automatic fire. A SAW by nature is heavier and therefore has a heavier barrel and action which can withstand prolonged automatic fire.
 
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