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TK3600

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F-16 aside, the quantity of missiles acquired is astonishing. Turkey had to allow Sweden NATO for this to happen. This means Turkey really wanted this for some reason, and need it fast. We may never know why until future.
 

sequ

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F-16 aside, the quantity of missiles acquired is astonishing. Turkey had to allow Sweden NATO for this to happen. This means Turkey really wanted this for some reason, and need it fast. We may never know why until future.

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I guess they got spooked by the amount of cheap kamikaze drones and cruise missiles being launched everywhere in the region.
 

sequ

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But that is the problem here. Who threatens Turkey while carrying large quantity of FPV drones and cruise missiles? Russia? Iran? Can't be Greece.
Turkiye is a NATO country which is semi at war with Russia. 3 neighboring countries have 1000's of kamikaze drones and cruise missiles (Syria, Iraq, Iran). And then you have the love-hate affair with the Greeks.

The Germans have also requested 1000 AMRAAM back in July. They've seen what threat these cheap drones and cruise missiles are.
 

phrozenflame

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Interesting, 952 new AIM120C8 together with the triple launchers makes an F-16 carry 8 AMRAAMS. 40+79=119 *8=952.

8 AMRAAMS for every new and upgraded F-16 it seems. With the rest of the 240 -C7's it'll be 10 AMRAAMS.

The other half of the F-16 fleet will get the Ozgur modernization and MURAD radar and the Goktug missiles.

I guess they got spooked by the amount of cheap kamikaze drones and cruise missiles being launched everywhere in the region.
How does Ozgur/ Murad kits compare to the Block 70 kits?

Also, so many JDAMs? Turkey probably has dozens of various guided bombs etc..
 

CasualObserver

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How does Ozgur/ Murad kits compare to the Block 70 kits?

Also, so many JDAMs? Turkey probably has dozens of various guided bombs etc..
If you type Özgür or MURAD in the search bar, you can see plently of previous posts about them and then you can make your own mind about its capabilities vis a vis other fighters. But one thing I can say is that Murad is a GaN based AESA radar with (slightly) more T/R modules than SABR, hence in my opinion it can give Vipers (SABR) and Rafales (RBE2) a hell of a run for their money.

Here's a quote from @sequ
What is this opinion about this? It's about the MURAD (AESA radar for F-16, Akinici and KE):

1152 GaN T/R Module
PAE(Power Added Efficiency) : Rumors start from %37 and reach as high as %54
20W nominal 30W peak output power per module (20kW power-30kW peak power for radar plus several kW for accessories like LRUs etc.)
Multilayer LTCC packaging (Low-Temperature Co-fired Ceramic)
SIGE (Silicon-Germanium) multifunction BICMOS IC/Core Chip (either on 130 or 150nm/0.13-0.15μm)
GaN MMIC (likely on 150nm 0.15μm)
Digital beamforming+cognitive radar algorithms.
Specially designed ethylene glycol+water liquid cooling system with microchannels.



Got it from @TheInsider


It is currently in testing phase, it has been integrated to Akinci, F-16B30s (and an unknown test platform?) and airborne tests are due to start real soon if it hasn't already. AFAIK the serial delivery of Murad is due till 2025 for Özgür-I and between 2026-28 for Özgür-II mods, though it is possible I might remember the specific dates wrong...

As said, you can find more info if you go back to previous posts.

Cheers.
 
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CasualObserver

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Also, so many JDAMs? Turkey probably has dozens of various guided bombs etc..
Block 70/72s have a different mission computer, although there's technically ways of "walkarounds" , it wouldn't be ideal.

But Turkey even went insofar to integrate indigenous PGMs to Azerbaijani Su-25s. And this was possible with zero hardware changes as well, all it took was developing a software and giving the guy in the cockpit a tablet (and also some cabling? this part is just my speculation)

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I should also add that unfortunately Turkish defence manufacturing in general lacks a large scale production capacity, hence for example it'll take a while for indigenous AA missiles to reach sufficient numbers.
 
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sequ

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Also, so many JDAMs? Turkey probably has dozens of various guided bombs etc..
These are for the Block 70. They come with new mission computers which are unavailable to Turkish munition manufactures to integrate their stuff.

The total amount of PGK ordered for the B70 is less than 2000 while the annual domestic production is more than 5000.

The Ozgur F-16s will do the most ground pounding while the B70 will mostly focus on air-to-air missions.
 

CasualObserver

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These are for the Block 70. They come with new mission computers which are unavailable to Turkish munition manufactures to integrate their stuff.

The total amount of PGK ordered for the B70 is less than 2000 while the annual domestic production is more than 5000.

The Ozgur F-16s will do the most ground pounding while the B70 will mostly focus on air-to-air missions.
@sequ I hope they didn't order a lackluster amount of Legion pods as they did with Sniper cuz that'd be a big shame if that is the case....
 
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