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So apparently a country which has TAI engineers is looking to participate in the TF-X program:

“There are demands. They also have engineers working with us. But it's a government-to-government (G2G) deal that needs to be made. There is no agreement announced by the state at this time.”

According to the statement made by Temel Kotil:
The engineers of the country who want to participate in the National Combat Aircraft Program are currently working on TAI projects.
This brings to mind countries such as Pakistan, Malaysia and Indonesia, which have close relations with TAI and have aviation industries.


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Indonesia is highly unlikely unless the ditch the KF-21 which is most likely not going to happen. So it could be either Malaysia or Pakistan.
 

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So apparently a country which has TAI engineers is looking to participate in the TF-X program:

“There are demands. They also have engineers working with us. But it's a government-to-government (G2G) deal that needs to be made. There is no agreement announced by the state at this time.”

According to the statement made by Temel Kotil:
The engineers of the country who want to participate in the National Combat Aircraft Program are currently working on TAI projects.
This brings to mind countries such as Pakistan, Malaysia and Indonesia, which have close relations with TAI and have aviation industries.


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Indonesia is highly unlikely unless the ditch the KF-21 which is most likely not going to happen. So it could be either Malaysia or Pakistan.
I hope to God it's not Pakistan. I actually think it might be the KSA even though they don't have a local TAI branch.
 

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Also there is a slight delay, the TF-X will roll out in April, not in March. Also the first F404 is underway and will arrive in a couple of days. IIRC there are rumors Kotil scolded GE's CEO for this late delivery. Hurjets flight control computer is made in Malaysia. It is still active in the Malaysian LCA tender.

The Anka 3 will use an Ukrainian engine (IMO the same AI-25TLT, should give a TWR of 0.25 at MTOW of the rumored 7tons). The Ukrainian engines for the ATAK-II are underway. Anka and Aksungur production continue. The 90th Anka is on the production line. There are 20 Anka's under various stages on the production line.
Aksungur was seen with Kuzguns integrated. One foreign customer demanded Cirit integration to Aksungur. There's huge demand for Aksungur in international market. There are 5 unknown countries that TAI exported it's products. TAI aims to be one of the top 10 defence companies in the world.

Also CDR of the TF-X will be completed before the maiden flight. There is not going to be a twinseater variant. The aircraft will RTB if the pilot faints.


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I hope to God it's not Pakistan. I actually think it might be the KSA even though they don't have a local TAI branch.
Why not? They seem the only one who thus far have shown a great interest in it. Although I believe a medium-size fighter is more suitable for their geography. Malaysia actually needs a heavy fighter because of its geography.

Kazachstan also needs a twin engined heavy fighter for their large territory.
 

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Why not? They seem the only one who thus far have shown a great interest in it. Although I believe a medium-size fighter is more suitable for their geography. Malaysia actually needs a heavy fighter because of its geography.

Kazachstan also needs a twin engined heavy fighter for their large territory.
Pakistan is notorious for not caring about non-disclosure agreements of military and industrial secrets.
 

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TUSAŞ Informed the Press on Company`s 2023 Activities and Ongoing Projects​

Turkish Aerospace (TUSAŞ) hosted almost 30 members of Aviation & Defense media from İstanbul & Ankara in their premises in Ankara today. On behalf of Defence Turkey Magazine, our Senior Editor, İbrahim SÜNNETÇİ followed this exclusive press tour.​

January 11, 2023

In the morning session, the latest status of ongoing projects and the company's updated profile were shared by executives of TUSAŞ. In the wake of the presentation, the media members visited the Aerostructure Division (metallic & composite assembly line), ANKA Final Assembly Line, ATAK, GÖKBEY & ATAK-2 final production line, HÜRJET static test field, Iron Bird and production line as well as a 270-degree simulator of TF-X and GTU prototype of Turkish Fighter in its nest.

Which topics are featured in this media tour?
National Combat Aircraft (MMU/TF-X):
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GTU Prototype powered by F110 -GE-129E Turbofan Engines will make its first flight at the end of 2023.
· A big ceremony is planned for the roll-out of the MMU Development & Test Aircraft in April (it will be declared on March 18, 2023)

ANKA Unmanned Aerial Vehicle:
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The production of the 90th ANKA UAV continues in the serial production line.
· The Serial Production line currently has more than 20 ANKAs at different stages of production.
· System integration of the 70th and 80th ANKA UAVs continues.

T-70 General Utility Helicopter:
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The 5th T70 General Utility Helicopter will be delivered to the Turkish Air Force (TurAF) with a ceremony on January 11, 2023. Türkiye ordered 109 T70 helicopters, and the first batch of 38 helicopters was approved for production. A total of 12 T-70 Helicopters from the first batch will be delivered this year, including 3 helicopters for the General Directorate of Forestry (OGM). The remaining ones will be produced in 2024.
· Sikorsky company continues negotiations with the US authorities to obtain production approval for the 2nd batch. Congress approval is also required for the production of the 2nd batch of T70s. It has been stated that the local content in T70 Helicopters is around 90-95%.

T625 GÖKBEY Light Transport/Utility Helicopter:
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The final assembly of 2 helicopters on the production line is currently in progress. The first one, which has already been completed, will be delivered soon.
· A total of 3 GÖKBEY will be delivered to the Gendarmerie General Command within 2023.

T129 ATAK and T929 ATAK-2 Helicopters:
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3 ATAK helicopters in the Phase-I version are being upgraded to the Phase-II version.
· The 86th T129 ATAK helicopter is currently on the serial production line.
· The fuselage production of the T929 ATAK-2 Prototype continues. The engines will be delivered to TUSAŞ within this month. No delay is expected for the first flight.
· Until now, 74 T129 ATAK Helicopters have been produced; Türkiye’s total order is 83. The license agreement with Leonardo will expire in 2028. An additional 3 T129s will be produced for the Ministry of Interior. In addition, 2 T129s will be produced for the Philippines, where 4 T129s were delivered before. Also, 2 T129s will be produced for another export customer. The domestic 20mm gun and turret will be used for the first time in the helicopters of this unnamed customer (it was said to be Niger before).
· The mid-fuselage of the ATAK-2 Helicopter is produced and delivered by Coşkuzöz Company. In this context, TUSAŞ has given work packages worth US$156 Million to sub-contractor companies. The first ATAK-2 Helicopter, which is still in production, will be seen in March with its landing gear and engines.
· Engines of ATAK-2 are in the process of shipping to Turkey.

HÜRJET Advanced Jet Trainer:
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A total of 4 prototypes will be produced.
· The production of the first airworthy prototype, which will fly on March 18, continues.

TUSAŞ Infrastructure Investments:
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In 5 years, TUSAŞ invested US$150 Million in testing and infrastructure, and also about 8000 new staff members were employed in this period. Thanks to these investments, the project timeline of HÜRJET and MMU/TF-X was accelerated.
· TUSAŞ also has a computer infrastructure with a total of 70,000 cores (1 x 50 thousand and 2 x 10 thousand cores).

F-16V Block 70:
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TUSAŞ is willing to take an active role in the production of 40 F-16V Block 70 Aircraft in Türkiye and the modernization of 79 Aircraft to Block 70 level (29 Block 50+ and 50 Block 40M).
· In this context, TUSAŞ contacted Lockheed Martin to carry out the final assembly and modernization of the aircraft at TUSAŞ facilities, and a delegation from Lockheed Martin surveyed the TUSAŞ facilities.

Aerostructure Division
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The total sales figures of the aerostructure division diminished in the pandemic period from US$550 million to US$ 350 million.
· According to the updated information, total revenue from Aerostructure Division recovered fractionally, reaching US$ 450 million in 2022.

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According to the SSB director:

"Our product variety is very large. For this reason, there were systems that could not be tested in 2022 in the missile test and firing area established in Sinop. Now we are working to establish new test areas."

When you have so many missiles and weaponry to test but don't have enough room for it :cool:
 

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Tolga Ozbek visited TAI facilities. He wrote a report about what he saw:

"Normally, the first flight date for the MMU is 2025. In the first phase, the goal is to produce a model close to the 5th generation with AESA radar and stealth design and fly it with American General Electric F110 engines.

The second stage is to produce the first block with approximately 40 F110 engines.

The third stage is to develop a new generation indigenous jet engine to be developed in TR, for which technological assistance will be obtained from abroad, and make it a real 5th generation aircraft.

When this is briefly explained, it is necessary to ask which aircraft will make its first flight at the end of 2023. My interpretation is that it is a basic prototype that will demonstrate the flyability of the concept, where basic flight data will be monitored. After all, all the results of the engineering work, which the TAI team is rightfully proud of, have been verified by computer simulations.

The Critical Design Review (CDR) will be completed and the first MMU will fly at the end of the year. The second MMU with AESA radar and all systems installed will follow in 2025. After that, the target for delivery to air force in 2028 is still valid.

The first step in the MMU is the General Electric F110 engine. These engines are in our country. There was an engine next to the airplane on the production line. On the screen on the table at the entrance of the MMU building, it was seen in the video that the number 2 engine on the right was installed. The other No. 1 engine was being installed in the engine mount of the airplane.

(In response to the question of whether it is really possible to speed up the project), increasing the number of engineers does not actually speed up the project immediately. Acceleration will be possible by taking certain steps to the fore, as TAI has done, in other words, by making the first flight with a basic model.

After all, they are working on a project that is the future of the Turkish Air Force. The steps need to be taken carefully with much thought. The Air Force Command also provides great support to the MMU teams. They are contributing to the creation of the concept through thousands of issues such as missions, capacity, maintenance and pilot training.

I saw the MMU

Block A, MMU production line. It is just behind the MMU Engineering building. In fact, the engineering teams and production lines of all facilities, from helicopters to UAVs, from parts manufacturing to satellites, are side by side. This building was completed at the end of March 2022. Production started immediately in April.

A giant airplane welcomes us inside the building. The MMU is so imposing that it is very different from the mock-up we have seen before.

Unlike the last photo, the aircraft's radome, engines and vertical stabilizer have been dismantled again. More precisely, the team on it is doing a plug and play. I made these notes in my notebook:

It's a huge radome: The radome on the side is incredibly big. It will house a giant AESA radar from ASELSAN. This radar will control all air-air, air-ground, air-sea targets. It will be the pilot's eyes.

Canopy: Ankara-based VOLO is manufacturing the canopy. Not only MMU, but also HÜRKUŞ and HÜRJET canopies are made by VOLO. This canopy is very important in terms of flight safety, both in terms of bird strikes and the canopy breaking apart during launch, and in terms of providing the pilot with optical vision.

Landing gear: The aircraft is on its own landing gear. For example, the nose landing gear is single-wheeled. Previously, this design was double-wheeled in the mock-up. When we asked, the team said, "That was a mock-up, now it is the real design." The landing gear manufactured by TAAC, a joint company of TAI and Altunay, is also beautiful in appearance. By the way, TAAC is also making the landing gear and weapons bay doors for the aircraft.

The engines have arrived: Both TAI and the Air Force are experts in F110 engines. If an agreement is reached, TEI will build 80 or more engines for the 40 aircraft to be produced in Eskişehir.

Fuel tests have started: The aircraft has three main fuel systems. The tests of two of them have been completed. The third is being worked on. Hydraulic tests were to start on the evening of Wednesday, the day of our visit. The system operates at 4500 psi pressure. Limits will be monitored.

MMU consists of four parts: The aircraft consists of four main parts. The front cockpit, center fuselage, wings and tail. The front section is made of 7050 and 77450 series aluminum, titanium in the middle. The outer skin and air intakes are composite.

TAI was painting the parts it produced for the F-35 with robotic systems. In this way, paint could be applied with equal thickness everywhere on the fuselage. This system will also be used for painting the MMU.

Which systems are foreign: The engine (in the first stage), ejection seat (British Martin Baker) and some valve systems are foreign. In other words, localization is around 85 percent.

Will the MMU fly without a pilot: When the pilot faints, for example, the aircraft will be able to land at the nearest airstrip with situational awareness. The goal is to enable the aircraft, which has a fly by wire system, to be flown without a pilot.

Will there be a two-seater model: When we asked Mr. Temel about this, his answer was "No." He said that there is no need for a second seat in this aircraft, and that MMU can do everything itself.

High manufacturing quality

TAI teams have produced an externally clean production. When you look from the outside, the surface of the aircraft and the quality of the parts are clean and sparkling. TAI has been producing parts for world giants for years. It adds engineering to this. It gets patents. The MMU is currently the pinnacle of this work.

Production line

Block A will be the prototype production site. Two airplanes can be manufactured at the same time. In the next step, a facility where 10 airplanes will be produced at the same time will be built next to it. Just nearby, the wind tunnel test center will open in April. You may immediately ask, where were the tests conducted? For the MMU, the world's leading wind tunnel test centers were used. This will be followed by a facility for electro-magnetic testing of the aircraft.

When our visit was completed and I appeared in front of the screen for the live broadcast, I shared this with the viewers. When I looked at the comments, while I conveyed the excitement I was experiencing, the viewers also received it. Everyone was very enthusiastic.

This project started with great excitement. It continues with excitement. Without losing our experienced teams, we need to continue design and production by transferring them to new projects. Because systems in aviation are renewed every 10 years on average. Either they are modernized or the engine is changed, for example. In order to achieve this, we need to work hard and not lose our enthusiasm.

As a result, MMU is the "best answer" to the whole world while after being removed from the F-35. As I always say, MMU is our country's "War of Independence in the Air"


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