Alright, this discussion is basically going nowhere. I will give everyone one more response here. After which, all posts related to this topic will be delete. And we can go back to the actual topic of China and Global South/BRI/SCO.
Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) and Global South strategic cooperation
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Well if that is the case they would have supported East Turkestan independence and campaign for statehood in the UN and in every other platform which some countries do for others they normally back.
You have been presenting some fictional stuff as official state political mudus operandi..
How I see it is you see some rightwing nationalists online and assume this is the official state politcs.. Politics is not like that or states don't operate like that.. Some of the things you said even if half of it was true China would have cut all ties long time ago..
You read to much into twitter in my honest opinion and it is unbelievable what you can come across there
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What can turkey, a NATO country, can offer to china more than Iran especially long term?
We need both Pakistan and Iran to stay intact to control Uyghurs in Pakistan(Block them from getting weapons).
Main benefits from Pakistan to contain india
Iran also be useful like north Korea when they piss Israel. We need both of them.
Turkey may be hosting Uyghur militants, but they seem to be more interested in using them as proxies in Syria. I'm not sure how true that is anymore today as they've improved ties with Assad and are back to fighting Kurds only.
The Uyghur problem seems to be from Kazakhstan, and even then it is minimal. When was the last terrorist attack in Xinjiang? Compare that to terrorism in America or western Europe.
The bigger threat is the political offensive, and that comes from Washington DC.
The Uyghur problem seems to be from Kazakhstan, and even then it is minimal. When was the last terrorist attack in Xinjiang? Compare that to terrorism in America or western Europe.
The bigger threat is the political offensive, and that comes from Washington DC.
It is better you take them all out and keep the thread on topic.. There is plenty more
The US led world bank likes to understate Iranian nominal GDP. IMF figures are different. By PPP there isn't much difference between Saudi Arabia and Iran. Electricity consumption is also about the same
You appear to have consumed too much anti Iran propaganda and China picking a side is your wishful thinking. China made some dangerously one sided statements in the joint statement with the GCC, but if China were picking a side, Iran wouldn't be entering the SCO now. Trying to sow division between Iran and China is just a Western plot.
Again, Saudi Arabia doesn't equal the Arab world. Sure, they'll all come to a meeting with Xi Jinping. But countries like Algeria, Sudan, Qatar or Iraq won't suddenly be more pro China just because the Saudis are. Doing a favour to the Saudis gives you more access to Egypt. That's it. And there's always the risk of another revolution in Egypt.
There are many pro west organisations of Iranians abroad, of course they won't respect China. What makes you think they speak for the people of Iran? Saudi Arabia also had protests during the Arab spring. There's no guarantee that the house of Saud will rule there forever
China can favor one country with more investment than other. That is not picking side. That is just business. The more one side has to offer the more other side can return. Nothing has changed economically. They both got deals. China is doing more trade with US than Pakistan and nobody is saying China prefer US over Pakistan.
China do however 'pick side' when it comes to conflicts. China always side with peaceful resolution over war, as opposed to side with one country over another. Even with Russia and Ukraine China still prefer peaceful resolution. This has always been consistent.
This do not mean China coerce one side to accept peace against their will. This is all verbal support and being willing to act as mediator with consent of both sides. China is not forcing Iran to do anything. Ultimately is it worth to complain about? Did China abandon Russia?
China do however 'pick side' when it comes to conflicts. China always side with peaceful resolution over war, as opposed to side with one country over another. Even with Russia and Ukraine China still prefer peaceful resolution. This has always been consistent.
This do not mean China coerce one side to accept peace against their will. This is all verbal support and being willing to act as mediator with consent of both sides. China is not forcing Iran to do anything. Ultimately is it worth to complain about? Did China abandon Russia?
Its basically like seeing your dream girl now hooking with other guys.
Something similar is happening here. Iran's response is based upon emotions (jealously, bitterness, insecurity, anxiety etc.), not rationality.
Hopefully they can utilise this incident for a positive transformation. While Gulf states are constantly twerking, Iran is blowing hot and cold all the time while also giving blue balls to China lol. China might as well spend more time and effort with these "exciting" partners instead of bothering with the bipolar Iran