China already put some efforts, what did turkey give back. Host terrorist, undermine Chinese integrity, unfair treatment of Chinese EVs. It's clear turkey hates china and will choose the west no matter how china do. China should teach them lesson like what Lithuania get.
So basically all you got is Turkey is trying to protect its domestic industries from China and China should respond by sanctioning them as if they recognized Taiwan. Great move.
Even if Turkey interest is to annex xinjiang long term as a Turkish empire?
I don't really see that even as a remote possibility given the number of countries in between. China is a great power. Turkey is not. As far as I'm concerned, Turkey hasn't caused any real problems for China other than following the West in Xinjiang genocide claims. Basically, all the Western countries are already doing that. China cannot give up relationship with a country just because it supports Xinjiang Genocide claim. But given that Turkey seems like it wants to play both sides right now, it's in China's interest to work with Turkey from an arm's length. And no, I don't care that it tries to protects its domestic industry from Chinese imports.
The US operations in Syria cost the Americans very little, but they cost the Syrians a lot. Once the Americans are removed and Syria becomes a strong country again, they can threaten the Israeli occupied Golan heights. Imagine the Gaza war with a Syria equipped with a powerful army and the Russian base. The US and EU will have to use a lot more energy to support Israel. A resurgent Syria will also benefit the whole region, Iraq, Iran and Turkey will all trade with them more, reducing their dependence on the west.
Right now, America is facing constant attack on its Syrian bases. Which will cause America to get dragged into a Middle Eastern conflict. That's in China's interest. The moment it withdraws, that means it will either not get dragged into a wider conflict or it's regrouping to attack Iran. Think about what's more preferable.
Really? What has Pakistan done for China? And hasn't China more than repaid any debts by sinking dozens of billions into doomed projects in Pakistan?
I'm going to disregard your other comments since at a minimum level, you don't even understand what Pakistan does for China
Going back multiple decades, The only country that China was able to routinely get access to Western equipment was Pakistan. The only military China can consistently train with and talk to was Pakistan. The training with PAF was very useful, since PAF trained with many NATO type of air forces, so they had access to many concept that PLAAF itself did not have access to. Training with PAF provided PLA with valuable experience that it was able to incorporate in its own training. Back a decade ago, it was routine for people involved with Chinese military to comment how aggressive PAF pilots were and that China needed to learn from that. Working with PAF definitely helped PLA modernization.
In terms of weapon systems themselves, China for example was able to access F-16s to get a sense of how they are operated, what to expect on a modern aircraft and such and how to operate them. Can you think of any other nation that could've given China access to F-16s? When it came to various export project from JF-17, FP-7G, China was able to work with PAF to understand what an air force that had access to Western 4th gen aircraft was looking for in its own aircraft. While CAC did all the development work, the interaction with PAF definitely helped CAC and PLAAF in its own development process.
This is just air force.
of course, China no longer needs PAF for this kind of help. But Pakistan was extremely useful in those year before I started following PLA in mid 2000s and all throughout my early days of following PLA.
It's really disappointing to watch people like yourself who came later and just have no concept of how much security help Pakistan has provided to China. There is a reason Pakistan basically only buys Chinese hardware now. The two military establishment are extremely tight. There has never been a major issue between the two countries. And China knows Pakistan will not stab its back.
Now when it comes to westpac conflict. The presence of Pakistan only pretty much assures that India will stay out of the conflict, because PAF is a better trained and equipped air force than IAF.
Not only that, China can be guaranteed overflight right over Pakistan territory which it can use to refuel for missions and then attack any hostile forces in Indian Ocean including Diego Garcia. And I'd be shocked if Pakistan does not allow China to station its fleet there in the event of a conflict. Which means, you can continue to have iron/copper shipments arrive at Karachi or Gwadar and then driven to China through karakoram highway. In the even that's not possible, Pakistan itself offers another railway freighting transit option into Western China.
You speak like an American
When China talks about win win cooperation, it's not just words. It's what makes China better than America. Rather than bringing death and
destruction and hegemony, China offers peace and prosperity. China's principles are mutual respect, peaceful coexistence and win win cooperation. Xi has actually been to Tehran in 2016
China is a super power and should be treated as such.
Why don't you take a look at the past year. How many foreign leaders have visited Beijing to pay tribute to Xi. Aside from major multi-nation conferences, has Xi gone anywhere? He went to Russia, that's it. Gavin Newsome cleaned up SF just in time for Xi's visit. If China gets invited anytime, he just sends Wang Yi or Li Qiang. He doesn't go himself.
Iran needs to know that if it wants to be in China's orbit, it needs to respect China's interest.
