PLAN Type 035/039/091/092 Submarine Thread

[AssassinsMace]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

By your logic, why didn't the Europeans sell them any? Maybe it's what they could only budget.

 

[FarkTypeSoldier]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Navy joke.

The Captain went out to find that none of his crew was there.

One sailor finally ran up the gang plank, panting heavily.

"Sorry, sir! I can explain, you see I had a date and it ran a little late.
I ran to the bus but missed it, I hailed a cab but it broke down,
found a farm, bought a horse but it dropped dead, ran 10 miles, and now I'm here."

The Captain was very skeptical about this explanation but at least he was here so he let the sailor go.

Moments later, eight more sailors came up to the captain panting,
he asked them why they were late.

"Sorry, sir! I had a date and it ran a little late, I ran to the bus but missed it,
I hailed a cab but it broke down,
found a farm, bought a horse but it dropped dead, ran 10 miles, and now I'm here."

The Captain eyed them, feeling very skeptical but since he let the first guy go, he let them go, too.

A ninth sailor jogged up to the Captain, panting heavily,

"Sorry, sir! I had a date and it ran a little late, I ran to the bus but missed it,
I hailed a cab but..."

"Let me guess," the Captain interrupted, "it broke down."

"No," said the sailor, "there were so many dead horses in the road,
it took forever to get around them."

That's a nice one... I had a good laugh

 

[asif iqbal]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

I don't see any reasons why China wouldn't sell or Pakistan wouldn't buy.

Russia has been selling newer Kilos to Indian Navy as well as loaned out a SSBN to IN.

Pakistan needs these subs as a deterrence in hostile times.

You mean the last part yeah that's crap

I believe China will build the first 5 with the last one built at Karachi Dockyard under ToT, they will be very modern SSK and I hope they have integrated the Babur cruise missile into the submarines which would give Pakistan sub surface force a nuclear delivery capability a huge advantage

A military balance in South East Asia is important for stability in the region

PN can not match the warship tonnage of IN so a air sea integration stratedgy where a aircraft detects a target and allows a FFG to attack it or a submarine detects a target and a fighter jet attacks the target or any other combination and reducing the time lapse between the target detection and attack working more effectively and efficiently between the various platforms it will take years to perfect the stratedgy but we are moving in the right direction

SSK, FFG, ZDK-03 and JF-17 C802 and CM-400AKG combination should be a winner

 

[vesicles]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

COMMENT
However, Western officials believe China will hesitate to extend such advanced technology to Pakistan given the potential for a harsh reaction from the United States and its allies.

If any US official complains, China will snap back and say "what about you guys stop selling weapons to Taiwan first?"

 

[asif iqbal]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

If any US official complains, China will snap back and say "what about you guys stop selling weapons to Taiwan first?"

I don't think anyone can influence the deal no one really cares what anyone else thinks as long as Sino-Pak have agreed on the specs rest is going to be history

Just hope they can get them built in break neck speed

 

[timepass]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Asif, these are the same one which I pointed couple of times earlier on the very same forum. PN have spend extensive time with their Chinese counter parts to induct the know how which they gathered from U214s & Merlin's orientations.

&

Yes they are going to be tailored with the induction of SLCMs (Babur) & for sure with AIP's..

 

[Jeff Head]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Russia has been selling newer Kilos to Indian Navy as well as loaned out a SSBN to IN.

Actually the nuclear subs the Russians are leasing to the Indians (and they may have an option to purchase at the end of the ten year lease) are SSNs, not SSBNs. Akula II nuclear attack submarines with the ability to launch Klub missiles.

 

[asif iqbal]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Asif, these are the same one which I pointed couple of times earlier on the very same forum. PN have spend extensive time with their Chinese counter parts to induct the know how which they gathered from U214s & Merlin's orientations.

&

Yes they are going to be tailored with the induction of SLCMs (Babur) & for sure with AIP's..

I know what I am thinking

We get three more OHP between 2014-2016 that's FFG-42, 45 and 49 put all four (PNS Alamgir) through GENESIS Turkish upgrade

Get four F23P FFG added to the four F22P FFG

That gives us 12 very good FFG in addition to those 6 old but still good Tariq Class FFG which are likely to be retired by 2020

2 x Agosta 70 and 3 x Agosta 90B plus 6 x Chinese SSK that's 11 x Submarines in total

Expand naval air arm with Naval JF-17 and ZDK-03 AWACS and more helos from China

Not a bad navy at all!

 

[FarkTypeSoldier]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Actually the nuclear subs the Russians are leasing to the Indians (and they may have an option to purchase at the end of the ten year lease) are SSNs, not SSBNs. Akula II nuclear attack submarines with the ability to launch Klun missiles.

Thanks for pointing out the error.

 

[asif iqbal]

Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Ok so are we back to building is Chinese new year over?