Re: PLAN submarines Thread II
A bigger missile load? it gives more space for more launchers i guess.
A bigger missile load? it gives more space for more launchers i guess.
PLAN Type 035/039/091/092 Submarine Thread
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SinoSoldier
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¦^��: PLAN submarines Thread II
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SinoSoldier
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¦^��: Re: PLAN submarines Thread II
Or it could have been a problem with its center of mass. You are still going to end up with the same number of tubes, so weapons load isn't it.
Or it could have been a problem with its center of mass. You are still going to end up with the same number of tubes, so weapons load isn't it.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Re: ¦^��: PLAN submarines Thread II
China plans to launch "revitalizing the Northeast" upgrade Edition
August 17, 2013 source: Xinhua
1
Xinhuanet, Huhehaote, August 17 (reporter Zhang Yunlong)-has been implemented for ten years the strategy for revitalizing Northeast China and other old industrial bases of China will continue. Being held in Ordos, Inner Mongolia 2013 cooperation on the joint meeting of the Executive heads in the four provinces in Northeast China, Du Ying, Deputy Director of national development and Reform Commission disclosed that Central intends to introduce comprehensive revitalization of Northeast China and other old industrial bases of development policy in the new period.
"Institutional mechanisms do not live with 10 years ago, economic growth, high levels of unemployment, compared to highlight the plight of people's livelihood issues, launched in 2003, ' revitalizing ' strategy has enabled fundamental and positive changes that had occurred in the Northeast, standing at a new historic starting point. "Du Ying said.
Changes of the Decade is most evident in Northeast China comprehensive economic strength has increased significantly. According to the North-East economic output by 1. 27 trillion yuan to last year's 5. 4 trillion yuan, an average annual growth of 12. 7%, speed up 3 than in the previous 10 years. 5%. Particularly in the past 5 years, the three Northeast provinces average GDP growth has exceeded the national average.
As a commonly faced problem of old industrial bases, rigid institutional mechanisms are the main constraints to development. The past 10 years, the situation has improved significantly in the Northeast. 90% complete property right system reform of State-owned industrial enterprises above, hundreds of large-scale backbone enterprises realize strategic reorganization, a large number of enterprises through the separation of policy bankruptcy, write-off of bad loans, enterprises with social measures such as removing historical burdens, traveling light.
Commensurate with this, elevation being consolidated Northeast equipment manufacturing base of the country's status, major technology and equipment on your own achievements.
Tan Zuojun, Vice Governor of Liaoning province, said that million kW nuclear power, thermal power, ultra high voltage power transmission equipment, million-ton ethylene plant, high-speed EMU trains, advanced shipping and offshore drilling platforms, CNC machining centers and heavy CNC machine tool of self, defense industry is developing rapidly, the fourth generation of nuclear submarines, aircraft carriers, a new generation of fighter jets and other high-tech weapons and equipment in the North-East development is complete.
Resource depletion, was once the industrial surge in the recession and mass unemployment in the Northeast. Decade, the Central finances through transfer payments to the three provinces in Northeast China in 20 cities Trojan invested 16.2 billion yuan, to achieve initial transformation of Fuxin of Liaoning province and a number of resource-based cities.
Chairman of the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region Bartel said, regional cooperation is productive, after since 2007 into the plan to revitalize the Northeast, Inner Mongolia, East Mongolian areas number of indicators remains higher than the average level, narrowing the regional development gaps. Also, four provinces in Northeast China in industrial connection, infrastructure construction, ecological protection, open to closer collaboration.
Northeast for the country's reform attempts. Northeast to try to implement VAT transformation, combination of agricultural tax relief, endowment insurance, transformation of shanty towns, coal mining-induced subsidence area governance and a series of major policy initiatives, following the summary to the country, have significant impact on the country.
"However, the results were revitalization in Northeast China, imbalances, institutional constraints to economic and social development, institutional and structural contradictions remain. Remains of old industrial base accelerating the transformation of economic development mode, to build China's upgraded version of economic difficulties. "Du Ying said.
Economic growth in Northeast China in the first half of this year is 8. 9%, down East 0. 2%, fell to last in the China's four regional sections, this is the last 5 years there were no new developments.
Participants agreed that in the four provinces in Northeast China, the coming period, is in Northeast China to deepen reform and opening up, speed up economic restructuring , is also key to rebuilding competitive advantages, to achieve a comprehensive revitalization period.
Last year, the State Council approved the Northeast revitalization "Twelve-Five" of planning, development for the Northeast set a new direction and goals, while developing the path framework.
In March this year, the national development and Reform Commission has developed a national adjustment and transformation of old industrial bases plans identified a new round of recovery blueprint for the next decade.
"To the maximum extent possible the release of dividends of reform, further deepen the reform of State-owned enterprises, promoting the reform of factories, dajiti, enabling non-public economy development, complete short Board of the economic development in Northeast China. "Du Ying said.
China plans to launch "revitalizing the Northeast" upgrade Edition
August 17, 2013 source: Xinhua
1
Xinhuanet, Huhehaote, August 17 (reporter Zhang Yunlong)-has been implemented for ten years the strategy for revitalizing Northeast China and other old industrial bases of China will continue. Being held in Ordos, Inner Mongolia 2013 cooperation on the joint meeting of the Executive heads in the four provinces in Northeast China, Du Ying, Deputy Director of national development and Reform Commission disclosed that Central intends to introduce comprehensive revitalization of Northeast China and other old industrial bases of development policy in the new period.
"Institutional mechanisms do not live with 10 years ago, economic growth, high levels of unemployment, compared to highlight the plight of people's livelihood issues, launched in 2003, ' revitalizing ' strategy has enabled fundamental and positive changes that had occurred in the Northeast, standing at a new historic starting point. "Du Ying said.
Changes of the Decade is most evident in Northeast China comprehensive economic strength has increased significantly. According to the North-East economic output by 1. 27 trillion yuan to last year's 5. 4 trillion yuan, an average annual growth of 12. 7%, speed up 3 than in the previous 10 years. 5%. Particularly in the past 5 years, the three Northeast provinces average GDP growth has exceeded the national average.
As a commonly faced problem of old industrial bases, rigid institutional mechanisms are the main constraints to development. The past 10 years, the situation has improved significantly in the Northeast. 90% complete property right system reform of State-owned industrial enterprises above, hundreds of large-scale backbone enterprises realize strategic reorganization, a large number of enterprises through the separation of policy bankruptcy, write-off of bad loans, enterprises with social measures such as removing historical burdens, traveling light.
Commensurate with this, elevation being consolidated Northeast equipment manufacturing base of the country's status, major technology and equipment on your own achievements.
Tan Zuojun, Vice Governor of Liaoning province, said that million kW nuclear power, thermal power, ultra high voltage power transmission equipment, million-ton ethylene plant, high-speed EMU trains, advanced shipping and offshore drilling platforms, CNC machining centers and heavy CNC machine tool of self, defense industry is developing rapidly, the fourth generation of nuclear submarines, aircraft carriers, a new generation of fighter jets and other high-tech weapons and equipment in the North-East development is complete.
Resource depletion, was once the industrial surge in the recession and mass unemployment in the Northeast. Decade, the Central finances through transfer payments to the three provinces in Northeast China in 20 cities Trojan invested 16.2 billion yuan, to achieve initial transformation of Fuxin of Liaoning province and a number of resource-based cities.
Chairman of the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region Bartel said, regional cooperation is productive, after since 2007 into the plan to revitalize the Northeast, Inner Mongolia, East Mongolian areas number of indicators remains higher than the average level, narrowing the regional development gaps. Also, four provinces in Northeast China in industrial connection, infrastructure construction, ecological protection, open to closer collaboration.
Northeast for the country's reform attempts. Northeast to try to implement VAT transformation, combination of agricultural tax relief, endowment insurance, transformation of shanty towns, coal mining-induced subsidence area governance and a series of major policy initiatives, following the summary to the country, have significant impact on the country.
"However, the results were revitalization in Northeast China, imbalances, institutional constraints to economic and social development, institutional and structural contradictions remain. Remains of old industrial base accelerating the transformation of economic development mode, to build China's upgraded version of economic difficulties. "Du Ying said.
Economic growth in Northeast China in the first half of this year is 8. 9%, down East 0. 2%, fell to last in the China's four regional sections, this is the last 5 years there were no new developments.
Participants agreed that in the four provinces in Northeast China, the coming period, is in Northeast China to deepen reform and opening up, speed up economic restructuring , is also key to rebuilding competitive advantages, to achieve a comprehensive revitalization period.
Last year, the State Council approved the Northeast revitalization "Twelve-Five" of planning, development for the Northeast set a new direction and goals, while developing the path framework.
In March this year, the national development and Reform Commission has developed a national adjustment and transformation of old industrial bases plans identified a new round of recovery blueprint for the next decade.
"To the maximum extent possible the release of dividends of reform, further deepen the reform of State-owned enterprises, promoting the reform of factories, dajiti, enabling non-public economy development, complete short Board of the economic development in Northeast China. "Du Ying said.
nicky
Junior Member
Re: PLAN submarines Thread II
1)given dimensions are incorrect;
2) why am I still forbidden to post images?
1)given dimensions are incorrect;
2) why am I still forbidden to post images?
Re: PLAN submarines Thread II
Lengthen her missile compartment at the expense of the sonar, torpedo, habitation and operation space ahead of the missile compartment? possible but unlikely. Most likely if they wanted more missiles they would just make the sub longer to hold a longer missile compartment.
Moving the sail forward might suggest the original type 094 had either direction stability issues underwater, or inadequate authority from sail mounted dive plane. Since inadequate diveplane authority can be compensated for with larger dive planes, I'll go with directional stability.
Lengthen her missile compartment at the expense of the sonar, torpedo, habitation and operation space ahead of the missile compartment? possible but unlikely. Most likely if they wanted more missiles they would just make the sub longer to hold a longer missile compartment.
Moving the sail forward might suggest the original type 094 had either direction stability issues underwater, or inadequate authority from sail mounted dive plane. Since inadequate diveplane authority can be compensated for with larger dive planes, I'll go with directional stability.
Re: PLAN submarines Thread II
The length of the hump and number of opinions did not change, but they did move the entire missile compartment 4 m forward, so the interior of 094 obviously changed. As for the placement of sonar, number/location of torpedo tubes, we won't know that until we get close up pictures. As for the other stuff, they may or may not be moved around.
Other than what you mentioned here, Kanwa's own speculation is that the missile changed from JL-2 to JL-2A. Which begs the question why moving forward 4 m would be better.
The length of the hump and number of opinions did not change, but they did move the entire missile compartment 4 m forward, so the interior of 094 obviously changed. As for the placement of sonar, number/location of torpedo tubes, we won't know that until we get close up pictures. As for the other stuff, they may or may not be moved around.
Other than what you mentioned here, Kanwa's own speculation is that the missile changed from JL-2 to JL-2A. Which begs the question why moving forward 4 m would be better.
SinoSoldier
Colonel
¦^��: Re: PLAN submarines Thread II
Mind you, "completed" does not mean it's under construction. It just means that all of the resources needed have been acquired; it conforms well with China's pattern of building a generation, developing next generation, and researching two generations ahead.
Mind you, "completed" does not mean it's under construction. It just means that all of the resources needed have been acquired; it conforms well with China's pattern of building a generation, developing next generation, and researching two generations ahead.
escobar
Brigadier
Re: PLAN submarines Thread II
As the 2arty has never mated nuclear warheads to their missiles, I think PLAN SSBNs go on patrol without a single nuke on board. The JL-2 SLBMs are probably all conventionally armed with high-explosive. In training 2arty mate the warheads only after receiving a nuclear strike.
As the 2arty has never mated nuclear warheads to their missiles, I think PLAN SSBNs go on patrol without a single nuke on board. The JL-2 SLBMs are probably all conventionally armed with high-explosive. In training 2arty mate the warheads only after receiving a nuclear strike.