Can't believe Canadian minister can come to conclusion with just new PR stunt photos? LOLz..
PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)
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Can't believe Canadian minister can come to conclusion with just new PR stunt photos? LOLz..
kwaigonegin
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He's a politician not a military man.
He shall stop commenting something like that.. I worry about his reputation. Maybe end of this month, Xinhua release photo and news about J-15 landing in night ops or show pictures of squadron operating on Liaoning. I don't know what comment he is going to make next? I am ok if he's not impressed. But with just a few photo and not making any concrete effort to dig more and can casually conclude the training level of Liaoning then I can be a minister too. Lolz...
Actually the Liaoning has two positions forward towards the bow that can be used for take-offs and allow simultaneous landings.
They have already built three 20,000+ tons LPDs which do have large hanger spaces and landing areas for helos. They will probably also build LHA/Ds that are over 30,000 tons.
They have already stated their intention to do this. My guess is their second will be an improved Liaoning, with a ski-jump and a potential waist cat. Then followed by full CATOBAR desings.
Actually, the Liaoning, aside from the US Nimitz/Ford class carriers, and the French Charles de Gaulle, is as powerful as any other carrier in the world. It would be a very capable and dangerous threat to any othe nation, or task force of ships, and would not be taken for granted even by a US carrier strike group.
Yes, the Chinese will use it to get their carrier "sea legs," under them, but it would be a severe miscalculation and underestimation to think that is could not be (and will not be) used as a capable carrier for actual operations and combat if necessary in the future.
For the Canadian Defense Minister to not be fully informed on this information and these characteristics, which any even light research would provide, makes him and his nation look bad, and ill-informed. That article was rife with misconceptions, flat-out wrong information, and IMHO a dangerous underestimation of the capabilities of this vessel.
With the types of strong escorts the PLAN is building in the Type 052D DDGs and Type 054A FFGs, and their newer SSNs, a Liaoning led CSG will be a significant game changer, with an impact on force structures in the WESPAC, and the nations there recognize it as evidenced by their own buildups in these same areas...including Australia with the two Canberras (which are, BTW, retaining their ski-jumps) and the three Hobarts.
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including angled deck and catapult as a test and training ship
Intrepid
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Only the right forward position can be used simultaneously when landings are in progress.
But then taxiing is difficult, for departing aircraft as well as for arriving aircraft. I think, simultaneous operation will only take place in training mode, when the aircraft just landed proceeds immediately to the take-off-position without refueling etc.
They will train for it for a reason.
In a war scenario, when pressed, they would be able to use both positions. They would easily alternate that launch position between landings and the other launch position with very little risk.
Its a matter of good deck handling, which will result from that training.
The point is, the article and the statements made in it are not correct. The Liaoning is capable of conducting launching and landing operations simultaneously.
Blackstone
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Maybe PLAN and China ship builders will take in all the lessons and make their first domestic carrier catapult-based instead of a ski ramp.
Blackstone
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The Canadian article reflects opinions of many military experts in the West, such as Aaron Friedberg and George Friedman, that PLAx is a "40 meter" military force; which is a derogatory term meaning PLAx looks good from 40 meters distance, but the closer one gets, the worse it is. Is it wishful thinking or sound analysis?
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