What a treat for those guys...and a great gesture by the US Navy.
The Chinese Rear Admiral laughing haha...we now have one as well =P
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The Chinese Rear Admiral laughing haha...we now have one as well =P
I suppose that everytime that the Liaoning goes out to sea she will qualify another batch of 5 or 6 pilots. The Liaoning since her commissioning on 25 september last year she has spend 101 days out of 414 days at sea. Meaning she has only spend about a quarter of her time at sea after being commissioned. There is a unexplained period of 6,5 months were she just sat at port doing nothing between 26 november 2012 to 10 june 2013. From 11 june to 11 november she has spend 69 days out of 153 days at sea so nearly half the time. So since 11 june the pace has definitely picked up. However it is still rather slow going as she goes out to sea for 2 or 3 weeks after being at port for 2 or 3 weeks to qualify another batch of 5 or 6 pilots with the same 3 planes.
The Indians will soon get the Vikramaditya and have already said that they will make her fully operational in 6 months time. It will be interesting to follow how the Indians shakedown the Vikramaditya and compare that with what China is doing with the Liaoning.
The Indians will soon get the Vikramaditya and have already said that they will make her fully operational in 6 months time. It will be interesting to follow how the Indians shakedown the Vikramaditya and compare that with what China is doing with the Liaoning.
Having a board like that is one thing...having an aircraft carrier like that is quite another.
Which do you think he would rather have?
Anyhow, it is, as I say, a very generous gesture by the US State Department and the US Navy...and make no mistke, this decision was taken at the highest levels. Which is a good thing.
Given Indian track record, I will not trust their 6 months operational time frame.
I agree ya, no offence Jeff, what I meant imitation is a sincerest form of flattery. Their navy wanted to copy US ones and am sure working diligently towards the goal somewhere right now. He probably grin wow, hihi we copy the right one, hmm looks good we like it, so this is how it is done. Am sure the gesture appreciated and good towards better building of transparency and US China military relations.
Well as we see the Admiral laughing, it is Commaraderie that you see, the interaction among fellows of a particular sort, the Chinese have joined the yatch club, the US taking down the guard is NOT some vague hope that the Chinese will reciprocate, that is shallow and vain, that is NOT what is going on here. It is a deliberate and honest display of good FAITH, something that many will misinterpret and misrepresent, but something that men of honor recognize and respond to, it is in fact BROTHERHOOD, it is the USN saying welcome to the neighborhood, happy to have you aboard, something that MEN do! brat
No probs, port_08...and thanks for the explanation.
Sorry if my answer/post sent the wrong message. No ill will or offense intended on my part either.
Well, we shall just have to wait and see.
This weekend the Indian Navy just activated their new Advanced Light Helicopter Squadron for the carrier. A month or two ago they officially activated their strike fighter squadron of Mig-29Ks for the Vikramaditya.
So they already have qualified pilots for a full air wing of aircraft who have qualified in land operations, and worked diligently at their own naval training facility with a ski-ramp like at the Chinese facility.
The big difference is that the Indians actually have a full squadron of operational strike aircraft all ready to go. They are already in service, and a squadron full of them is already formed to place on the carrier. They also have fifty years experience operating carriers, albeit with Harrier aircraft.
If the Indians can quickly get those aircraft aboard the carrier and spend 70-80% of their time for the next six months at sea, working their air group up and training hard...they may well be at an IOC state in six months. But it's going to be a LOT of very hard work.
In the mean time, I hope the PLAN can get more aircraft of their own on the Liaoning. I hope in the next six months that they are operating at least six or nine aircraft off of the carrier instead of the three we see currently.
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Multiply that six months by ten and you will get five years, and that would be a more realistic target. Meanwhile, PLAN is now another step ahead by utilizing the starboard launch position.
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Their first few months you not to see full squadron of Mig-29K park atop of carriers. Pretty sure, first few months , its going to be the same current liaoning, with few plane carry out the initial landing and take off practice. Slowly qualify all the pilots to be carrier capable. Then you have the late stage of full squadron plane working on carrier then you left with few months before the 6 months deadline.
Are you seriously going to believe it? Land based qualify and sea based carrier qualify are hell lots different. It will never be made it in 6 months.
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