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kroko

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However, if to incorporate into the 002 design, there's still enough time, eventhough it's still rather tight.

In any case, until there's a visual confirmation of any CATOBAR aircraft, I won't hold my breath.

AFAIK, there is not timetable for the construction of 002. Only they are building 001
 

Mirabo

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AFAIK, there is not timetable for the construction of 002. Only they are building 001

The development of the Type 002 is shrouded in mystery. As far as I know, most people generally agree that the design is close to being finalized (or already had been finalized, but is being revised to accommodate electromagnetic catapults, as they are now considered viable).

Some even say that construction's already started, which I don't really doubt as the inclusion of electromagnetic catapults should not affect the design of the ship below the waterline. What we do know about its design features (though not for certain) is that the Type 002 will use conventional propulsion, has 2-4 catapults and will be in the 70,000-80,000 ton range.
 

Blitzo

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AFAIK, there is not timetable for the construction of 002. Only they are building 001

I think the general consensus at this point is that 002 will start construction before 2020, however the specific year of construction may depend on whether they choose to go with steam catapults or EM catapults -- that is to say, I think they are being flexible regarding the construction of the carrier itself to determine whether steam or EM cats are more suitable for the Navy's overall plans.
But either way, 002 is definitely going to be built, and the Navy will have its own timetable for the alternative proceedings depending on which catapult type (or other subsystems) they go with.
You almost make it sound like 002 is a project which doesn't actually exist.

And no, they are not building 001 -- they are building 001A. 001 is Liaoning, 001A is the carrier being built at Dalian.
 

Blackstone

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Anyone with some Liaoning stories like the recent one from the Dwight D. Eisenhower? I find it hard to believe there hasn't been accidents in the last few years, because no matter how careful Liaoning's crew is, accidents will happen.

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NORFOLK, Va. – The Navy says eight sailors have been injured aboard the Norfolk-based aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Cmdr. Mike Kafka of Naval Air Force Atlantic said in a news release that the sailors are in stable condition with non-life threatening injuries.

Kafka said the sailors were injured Friday when an arresting gear parted during a routine landing by an E-2C Hawkeye aircraft. The injured sailors were working on the flight deck at the time of the accident.

Kafka said the aircraft resumed flight and returned safely to its base at Norfolk Naval Station Chambers Field. He said initial reports are that the aircraft was not damaged and its crew members were not injured.

The carrier is off the Virginia coast conducting training for an upcoming deployment.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Anyone with some Liaoning stories like the recent one from the Dwight D. Eisenhower? I find it hard to believe there hasn't been accidents in the last few years, because no matter how careful Liaoning's crew is, accidents will happen.

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The onus is on you to prove it. And not just your prejudice and insinuation without proof.

Just because somebody has an accident doesn't mean that you have to have accident
The training tempo and operation pace are different.
The more plane and the faster operation, the more chance accident will happened. That is the law of probability. China hasn't reach that level yet

The Chinese take their time bringing Liaoning into operation status
 
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Blitzo

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Anyone with some Liaoning stories like the recent one from the Dwight D. Eisenhower? I find it hard to believe there hasn't been accidents in the last few years, because no matter how careful Liaoning's crew is, accidents will happen.

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There probably will have been accidents on Liaoning, but they probably wouldn't be widely reported. This isn't necessarily a surprise, because all activities on Liaoning have typically been very controlled in terms of disclosure. The few pictures and videos we get are only a small peek into what they've been doing, and serve as a floor rather than a ceiling for us to estimate how far they are.

That said, if you were in China and able to read Chinese, I expect if you carefully checked issues of Naval and Merchant ships which talked about Liaoning, they might print subjects.
China's niche print media for military, naval, air force and science subjects typically print more detail than internet and TV media.


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Also, at this stage the Navy I think is being very meticulous in training its pilots and deck crew for flight operations, so it may well be that there have been no major accidents thus far. Such accidents may become more prevalent as the Navy becomes more confident in carrier operations overall and engage in higher temp operations regularly which leads to a higher risk of accidents despite higher overall proficiency.
 

I wonder

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I think Aircraft Carriers have got a lot safer over the years.
There used to be a lot of accidents in the early years, but hardly any now.
I am wondering if this is because computers actually do the landing and the pilot just observes, or maybe the pilot lands the plane but the computer overrides if it thinks an accident is about to happen.
 

bd popeye

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I'm happy no one was seriously injured aboard IKE during the recent accident.

I think Aircraft Carriers have got a lot safer over the years.
There used to be a lot of accidents in the early years, but hardly any now.
I am wondering if this is because computers actually do the landing and the pilot just observes, or maybe the pilot lands the plane but the computer overrides if it thinks an accident is about to happen.

USN Carriers are much safer than in years past. Better training and technology are the reasons. Computers do not land aircraft on ships. Pilots do. Computers only advise.

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Intrepid

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I think Aircraft Carriers have got a lot safer over the years.
Reduced approach speeds, longer landing strips, better instrument landing systems and other assistance like auto throttle, less and smaler aircraft to have more space available (remember Tomcat, Savage, Skywarrior and Vigilante). That are good reasons for a safer operation.
 

Blackstone

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I'm happy no one was seriously injured aboard IKE during the recent accident.



USN Carriers are much safer than in years past. Better training and technology are the reasons. Computers do not land aircraft on ships. Pilots do. Computers only advise.

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Which brings it back to my original inquiry; has there been accidents on the Liaoning, similar to want recently happened on the CVN Eisenhower? If so, was it made known to the public?
 
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