Intrepid
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We should bear in mind these words regularly.
PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)
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Everyone has their own opinion. That's fine. People may be skeptical of China's capabilities, let them be it's their choice.
At the end of the day I just hope that people will learn something when they come here to this forum...as I have been learning for the past 8 years. Whether that changes their view of China is entirely up to them...
Let's just move on.
At the end of the day I just hope that people will learn something when they come here to this forum...as I have been learning for the past 8 years. Whether that changes their view of China is entirely up to them...
Let's just move on.
Quickie
Colonel
I did sense the post is more a joke than anything else. Verum, afaik, is not known to be posting the sort of things Hendrik was complaining. So, his comment had come across as someone who had not been following very closely on this development. At first, antiterror13 reply was kind of surprise to me, but then I sensed it's mostly just a joke on Verum's late coming to the party.
interesting post...just like the people on chinese website,arguing,sometimes get pissed off ...
SinoSoldier
Colonel
So, any more updates on the construction of the new oil tanker or container ship or are we going to continue arguing?
I think it is interesting to go back and compare now what we are seeing on the carrier under construction, and what we saw with those old "hanger modules" we saw appear some time ago.
For example, here is one of the modules:
Compare that to what we are seeing now at the Dalian dry dock:
For example, here is one of the modules:
Compare that to what we are seeing now at the Dalian dry dock:
It is worth noting that the module in the first picture was from a few years ago, produced at Jiangnan, and was a demo module, not an actual real module for an actual carrier...
Whereas the carrier at Dalian is... well, an actual carrier and it's not being produced by Jiangnan (obviously).
So I wouldn't place too much weight on comparing the two, because they're so different in terms of what they're meant to be.
JayBird
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fzgfzy the big cat says he just went there to check on 001A two days ago, not much change compared to the last round of pics. Maybe the shipyard needs 2-3 weeks to assemble each big modules. The last set of pics was just a little over a week ago.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
I'm not so sure about that, the whole point of a demonstration module is to demonstrate the shipyard could build what the designers designed. Otherwise what's the point in building the module at all?
It would not have been some random design they pulled off the internet, but rather a section from an actual design proposed to the navy, and this demonstration module would have been part of the bidding process, to convince the navy that the shipyard could actually deliver on the design they proposed.
The odd thing is the Jiangnan module seems to have a much shallower hanger deck, being only two decks deep, whereas the Dalian design is 3 decks deep.
The decks of the Jiangnan module would need to be 3m in height (which is a bit more than typical for a warship I believe) in order for the hanger to be high enough for the 5.93m J15, and even then its a very tight squeeze!
That makes me believe the Jiangnan module isn't a carrier test module, or at least not for a carrier able to handle J15s.
In all likelihood, I would say that test module is for an LHD rather than full carrier.
If that is the case, I may need to revise my long-held view that the PLAN would start the construction of a second, different carrier design at Jiangnan shortly after, or during the construction of 001A at Dalian.
Quickie
Colonel
Could it be a module that is near to the bow of the carrier? The hull seems to be getting narrower with the hangar now reduced to 2 deck high, from 3 deck high, as the lowest deck space becomes replaced by the hull bulkhead.
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