PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)

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delft

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The tooling and the jigs used to make the folding wing, short tail, carrier stressed j-15 is probably substantially different for those used to make the fixed wing j-11. So I doubt j-15 and j-11 would be built on the same production line. If they are built on separate production lines, then it make no sense to intersperse j-15 production between batches of j-11.
Most is the same but you have to cater for the differences. So instead of fitting the whole wing you only fit the inboard portion and have a separate place to mount the outboard parts that of course have their own production facility. That's why it makes sense if you need to produce a lot of one kind and a few of the other to have two batch production facilities, one specialized, one more expensive and able to switch. But it always contains a lot of compromises. Calculate what it cost to do it one way and compare it with the dozen other ways you have already thought of.
 

Franklin

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This is a ITN report about Liaonings recent sea trial so we now have conformation of the latest sea trial. But the report says that this is Liaonings third sea trial this year, but isn't this supposed to be Liaonings second sea trial this year ? Does that 6 hours trip in late february even count as a sea trial ? The footage in the video are probably from the last sea trial in june. But a nice video anyway.

[video=youtube;PThY3Q5Hd88]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PThY3Q5Hd88[/video]
 
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Engineer

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This is a ITN report about Liaonings recent sea trial so we now have conformation of the latest sea trial. But the report says that this is Liaonings third sea trial this year, but isn't this supposed to be Liaonings second sea trial this year ? Does that 6 hours trip in late february even count as a sea trial ?

They did test out the ship's weapon systems during transit, so I would say yes.
 

Air Force Brat

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This is a ITN report about Liaonings recent sea trial so we now have conformation of the latest sea trial. But the report says that this is Liaonings third sea trial this year, but isn't this supposed to be Liaonings second sea trial this year ? Does that 6 hours trip in late february even count as a sea trial ? The footage in the video are probably from the last sea trial in june. But a nice video anyway.

Chinese Defense Minister Chang and Sec Def Hagel agreed that China will participate in the Pacific RIM exercises next year, that will be interesting, I doubt they will bring the Liaoning, but ya never know, it would be very interesting, these are some unprecedented developments, and for whatever reason, the US and China are launching a more cohesive era???? brat
 
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TyroneG

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Chinese Defense Minister Chang and Sec Def Hagel agreed that China will participate in the Pacific RIM exercises next year, that will be interesting, I doubt they will bring the Liaoning, but ya never know, it would be very interesting, these are some unprecedented developments, and for whatever reason, the US and China are launching a more cohesive era???? brat


I think it's bit more than that, USN might want to check out China's latest Naval ships, radar signals and other stuffs, but do you guys realize which ship CHina is sending to that exercise?? China is well aware of that and therefore sending its older type of ship there, None of that 054A, 052C or even 051C...etc. I think China is sending the outdated shenzhen the one still has the old type of crotale SAM.

No Way on Liaoning.

Japan has repeated invite PLAN to send its latest ships to Japan port for visit. China has turned it down. The purpose of this type of invitation is more likely to check out PLAN's assets.
 
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bd popeye

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I think it's bit more than that, USN might want to check out China's latest Naval ships, radar signals and other stuffs, but do you guys realize which ship CHina is sending to that exercise?? China is well aware of that and therefore sending its older type of ship there, None of that 054A, 052C or even 051C...etc. I think China is sending the outdated shenzhen the one still has the old type of crotale SAM.

No Way on Liaoning.

Japan has repeated invite PLAN to send its latest ships to Japan port for visit. China has turned it down. The purpose of this type of invitation is more likely to check out PLAN's assets.

Are you referring to this article?

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China did send the single class DD Shenzhen to Japan in 2010. Not an old vessel by any measurement.

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A Chinese warship came to Japan for the first time since the People’s Republic of China was established in 1949 as part of a bilateral defense exchange.

The Luhai-class missile destroyer Shenzhen arrived at Harumi wharf near downtown Tokyo, under escort by the Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force destroyer Ikazuchi.

The top commander of the Maritime Self-Defense Force, Adm. Eiji Yoshikawa, said ‘’Welcome to Japan,'’ in Chinese at a welcome ceremony at the wharf, where several hundred people gathered with some holding Chinese national flags and performing dragon and lion dances.

Rear Adm. Xiao Xinnian, vice chief of staff of the South China Sea Fleet, said, ‘’The Shenzhen brought not only the crew of 345 members but also friendly feelings of 1.3 billion people in China.'’

Chinese Ambassador to Japan Cui Tiankai said the historic port call by the Chinese navy has a crucial significance to realize a long-term, healthy and stable development of bilateral ties.

The ship will stay for four days and the crew plans to participate in friendship events with the local people.

The port call by a Chinese naval ship to Japan was first agreed to in 2000 by then Japanese Prime Minister Yoshiro Mori and Chinese Premier Zhu Rongji.

But China refrained from sending a warship as Mori’s successor, Junichiro Koizumi, repeatedly visited Tokyo’s war-related Yasukuni Shrine since 2001 despite protests from Beijing.

Japan last received a port call from a Chinese naval ship in 1934, when the Ninghai of the Republic of China visited Japanese ports, including Yokohama and Shimonoseki, according to Japan’s Maritime Staff Office.
 
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joshuatree

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I think it's bit more than that, USN might want to check out China's latest Naval ships, radar signals and other stuffs, but do you guys realize which ship CHina is sending to that exercise?? China is well aware of that and therefore sending its older type of ship there, None of that 054A, 052C or even 051C...etc. I think China is sending the outdated shenzhen the one still has the old type of crotale SAM.

No Way on Liaoning.

Japan has repeated invite PLAN to send its latest ships to Japan port for visit. China has turned it down. The purpose of this type of invitation is more likely to check out PLAN's assets.

I think it's Qingdao 113, Linyi, 547 (a type 054A), and Hongzehu 881?
 

adeptitus

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At 0:29 of the video, is the J-15 taking off from #3 (?) position on the ship? It doesn't seem to be using the ramp for the lift-off.
 
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