PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)

I believe, progress is behind schedule, because some components are missing or have failed. The question is, what are this components.

A sequence of satellite photos shows a new addition at the catapult testing facility. The last photo is the OP's speculation that this is some kind of electric generator, which should be taken with a grain of salt.

Check it out on Google Maps:


Any thoughts on what this new addition is?

Some neat pictures from Liaoning testing. I love the first which is a Type 052C keeping station with the Liaoning as an escort in the South China Sea...and then the ones of the Liaoning doing live fire tests with its CIWS and ASW rockets.

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, that I have been putting together.

There were possibly Russian advisors on board the Liaoning. Same with other major PLA-N ships on exercises/training. PLA-N did not have the expertise or experience in the past. However, the Chinese are known to be fast learners.

Jeff Head said:

Some neat pictures from Liaoning testing. I love the first which is a Type 052C keeping station with the Liaoning as an escort in the South China Sea...and then the ones of the Liaoning doing live fire tests with its CIWS and ASW rockets.

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advill said:

There were possibly Russian advisors on board the Liaoning. Same with other major PLA-N ships on exercises/training. PLA-N did not have the expertise or experience in the past. However, the Chinese are known to be fast learners.

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I doubt seriously, in the recent past, and particularly during the South China Sea exercises last year, whether there were any Russian advisors aboard.

With their new vessels, like the Type 052C/D and the Type 054A, and the Liaoning for that matter, I believe the Chinese are well past needing or even wanting Russian "advisors" aboard.

During the annual Russian/Chinese exercises they probably both exchange observers...but advisors on Chinese ships are probably a thing of the past at this point.

bd popeye said:

Once again excellent post Bltizo. Excellent.

Right now they are more than likely studying the "hic-ups and goofs" made in the last couple of years and are working hard to make sure mistakes are corrected. And I'm sure they are making their own CV operation doctrine to fit the needs of the PLAN future operations.

Perhaps when the ship emerges from the shipyard in a few months will will see a quicker pace of operations.

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Taking from the IT perspective, the Liaoning IT systems are probably many times more complex with integration with many times more external systems compared to civilian IT operation. Putting the nautical system aside, practically everything related to IT in Liaoning is version 1.0, there will be more bug fixes, patch releases and regression test. I don't think the carrier operation can hit full strides until the system reach certain level of stability.
Are sailors in a modern navy trained to operate in full "manual" condition without IT system service? Is there a "ouija board" style manual backup for every system?

by78 said:

A sequence of satellite photos shows a new addition at the catapult testing facility. The last photo is the OP's speculation that this is some kind of electric generator, which should be taken with a grain of salt.

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It seems to me some kind of equipment around which a building similar to the others in that compound will be built. Notice that there are two cranes in that place. This seems to be heavy stuff, not some kind of storage tanks.

Has anyone taken ground pictures of that place, or even spoke to anyone in that area about what is this place?

Don't know if this picture has been uploaded here before. It shows Liaoning CBG with 2 SSNs.

stack said:

Are sailors in a modern navy trained to operate in full "manual" condition without IT system service? Is there a "ouija board" style manual backup for every system?

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Speaking for the US Navy I can state that their are many, many manual back systems for most gear. All systems? Not sure about that.

advill said:

There were possibly Russian advisors on board the Liaoning. Same with other major PLA-N ships on exercises/training. PLA-N did not have the expertise or experience in the past. However, the Chinese are known to be fast learners.

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We have not seen any picture, report or in the Chinese message boards of Russian advisors on board. Must be one of your unfounded speculations again.