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rhino123

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Should this read we will have 36 aircaft..? Ok if they have 36 aircraft that is most certainly something I want to see!!



This ^^^ I really like! I hope peace breaks out in the Pacific!
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Actually I don't think the captain said that they have 36 aircraft operating on the carrier, if it was based on the interview with the captain (in one of the video shown a couple of comments back), the captain meant that there "will" be 36 airplanes (which might also mean a mixture of fighters and helicopters) operating on the carrier. At this present moment, there isn't that much aircraft on the Liaoning yet.
 
Jeff Head

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delft said:
There can be no difficulty in flying aircraft to her as they become available.
They're now checking the shore facilities necessary and then can increase training at lower light levels, at night and with more aircraft.
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Of course.

But they also just transited a very sensitive area through the Straits of Formosa, aka the Taiwan Strait. IMHO, if they had more aircraft, they would have had them aboard then and had them up on CAP.

I have no doubt that shore based aircraft were there protecting the carrier too...but a carrier carries aircraft to punctuate the point that it can protect itself, and defend itself if necessary...with long teeth.

I believe they have very few aircraft aboard...but am still holding out hope to see more than three on this exercise/assignment.
 
Blackstone

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Jeff Head said:
Of course.

But they also just transited a very sensitive area through the Straits of Formosa, aka the Taiwan Strait. IMHO, if they had more aircraft, they would have had them aboard then and had them up on CAP.

I have no doubt that shore based aircraft were there protecting the carrier too...but a carrier carries aircraft to punctuate the point that it can protect itself, and defend itself if necessary...with long teeth.

I believe they have very few aircraft aboard...but am still holding out hope to see more than three on this exercise/assignment.
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Liaoning is close enough to shore that land based airplanes could fly CAP, so it's possible China signaled Taiwan that Liaoning training group is just transiting through the strait, with as little fanfare/footprint as possible.
 
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weig2000

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kwaigonegin said:
No PLAN definitely doesn't need 10 CSGs either soon or the forseeable future for the simple fact that they are not interested in the Atlantic domain. Their's is strictly Pacific only and as big as that pond is, you don't really need 10 CVBGs for that. 5 CSG is plenty to maintain power projection and maintain influence.
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Pacific Ocean AND Indian Ocean, to be exact.
 
Air Force Brat

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Jeff Head said:
Of course.

But they also just transited a very sensitive area through the Straits of Formosa, aka the Taiwan Strait. IMHO, if they had more aircraft, they would have had them aboard then and had them up on CAP.

I have no doubt that shore based aircraft were there protecting the carrier too...but a carrier carries aircraft to punctuate the point that it can protect itself, and defend itself if necessary...with long teeth.

I believe they have very few aircraft aboard...but am still holding out hope to see more than three on this exercise/assignment.
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Nothing belies the fact that the LRIP aircraft currently aboard the Liaoning are likely unarmed, and serving strictly in a training role, and more than likely at a very reduced gross wt to operate off the Liaoning with increased safety margins as the training process continues. In our case we have a fairly sizeable number of F-22s dedicated to the training role even today. However, it will not surprise me to see the PLANAF fly six to twelve J-15s out to the Liaoning en-mass, as a "show of force".
 
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Jeff Head said:
Of course.

But they also just transited a very sensitive area through the Straits of Formosa, aka the Taiwan Strait. IMHO, if they had more aircraft, they would have had them aboard then and had them up on CAP.

I have no doubt that shore based aircraft were there protecting the carrier too...but a carrier carries aircraft to punctuate the point that it can protect itself, and defend itself if necessary...with long teeth.

I believe they have very few aircraft aboard...but am still holding out hope to see more than three on this exercise/assignment.
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Actually, taiwan control a few islets on chinese side of the strait of formosa, just a few kilometers off Chinese shore. In the 50s PLA bombarded these islets in anticipation of taking them. But since then an unoffocial ceasefire has been in place. After the ceasefire, PLAN warships has almost never transited through strait of Formosa where they would necessarily cut across the supply line between Taiwan and these islets. In stead they always sail the long way around the east coast of Taiwan, well out in international waters beyond taiwan's exclusive economic zone.

It would be interesting to know if Liaoning followed this path, because this time, by sailing around Taiwan so as to not cut supply line between Taiwan and its outlying islands, liaoning must necessarily cut the supply line between Japan and senkaku islands.
 
volleyballer

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chuck731 said:
Actually, taiwan control a few islets on chinese side of the strait of formosa, just a few kilometers off Chinese shore. In the 50s PLA bombarded these islets in anticipation of taking them. But since then an unoffocial ceasefire has been in place. After the ceasefire, PLAN warships has almost never transited through strait of Formosa where they would necessarily cut across the supply line between Taiwan and these islets. In stead they always sail the long way around the east coast of Taiwan, well out in international waters beyond taiwan's exclusive economic zone.

It would be interesting to know if Liaoning followed this path, because this time, by sailing around Taiwan so as to not cut supply line between Taiwan and its outlying islands, liaoning must necessarily cut the supply line between Japan and senkaku islands.
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The Liaoning CBG steamed through the Taiwan Strait, about 5 NM from the Center line.
 
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chuck731 said:
After the ceasefire, PLAN warships has almost never transited through strait of Formosa where they would necessarily cut across the supply line between Taiwan and these islets. In stead they always sail the long way around the east coast of Taiwan, well out in international waters beyond taiwan's exclusive economic zone.

It would be interesting to know if Liaoning followed this path, because this time, by sailing around Taiwan so as to not cut supply line between Taiwan and its outlying islands, liaoning must necessarily cut the supply line between Japan and senkaku islands.
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Are you saying that PLA never sails in the Taiwan strait? and why would navigate a ship cut supply lines betwen islands?
 
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delft

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Jeff Head said:
Of course.

But they also just transited a very sensitive area through the Straits of Formosa, aka the Taiwan Strait. IMHO, if they had more aircraft, they would have had them aboard then and had them up on CAP.

I have no doubt that shore based aircraft were there protecting the carrier too...but a carrier carries aircraft to punctuate the point that it can protect itself, and defend itself if necessary...with long teeth.

I believe they have very few aircraft aboard...but am still holding out hope to see more than three on this exercise/assignment.
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It is unlikely that the aircraft on board would be fit to defend her. But also a show of high preparedness for defense would give exactly the wrong message to the friendly people of Taiwan. The message is now that there will be peace between both parts of China until eventual reunification.
 
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I have a question how does wake turbulence effect air launches on carriers ? How long do they have to wait between launches ? And does a catapult help to reduce the effect of that turbulence ?
 
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