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kwaigonegin said:
thanks bd! in that case it would be a serious design flaw!
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Thank you! I thought so too. I guess if they do remove an engine for repair they test it once reinstalled in the aircraft.

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This is hot news about LIAONING CV-16...

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ABOARD LIAONING AIRCRAFT CARRIER, Nov. 28 (Xinhua) -- China's first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, passed through the Taiwan Strait on Thursday morning on its way to a training mission in the South China Sea.

It took about 10 hours for the carrier and its four escort ships to get through the strait separating the Chinese mainland and Taiwan.

The Liaoning entered the Taiwan Strait on Wednesday afternoon after it left its home port in Qingdao of east China's Shandong Province on Tuesday for the South China Sea on a scientific and training mission.

It was escorted by two missile destroyers, the Shenyang and Shijiazhuang, and two missile frigates, the Yantai and Weifang.

During the voyage, the carrier has kept a high degree of vigilance against approaches from foreign warships and aircraft, according to Liaoning Captain Zhang Zheng.

This is the first time the carrier has conducted a cross-sea training voyage and passed through the Taiwan Strait since it was commissioned into the People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy in September last year, according to Zhang.

It is also the fifth time this year that the vessel has been out to sea for experiments and training, the captain said, adding that all the year's operations have been conducted as scheduled.

Progress has been made regarding everything from integration of the carrier and carrier-borne aircraft to the skills of the carrier staff and aircraft pilots to the testing of equipment under complicated conditions, which has laid a firm foundation for proceeding trials, said Zhang.

The upcoming South China Sea engagement is a normal arrangement in the carrier's scheduled training, according to the PLA Navy.

The Liaoning is China's only aircraft carrier in operation. It was refitted based on an unfinished carrier of the former Soviet Union. The refitted carrier was delivered to the navy on Sept. 25, 2012.
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I think we are all exceptionally interested in seeing pictures of this little training mission of theirs.


Especially the abundance (but probably lack of) aircraft on deck.
 
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CCTV English video of Liaoning leaving for the South China Sea exercise.


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bd popeye said:
I found this illustration of what CV-16 is doing on sina.

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Yes, she normally would pass through the 1st island chain and pass in the less constricted waters east of Taiwan...but with the current dispute, I believe she wisely chose to transit the straits.
 
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Jeff Head said:
Yes, she normally would pass through the 1st island chain and pass in the loess constricted waters eat of Taiwan...but with the current dispute, I believe she wisely chose to transit the straits.
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What an interesting turn of circumstances it is that passing through the strait is seen as the "less inflammatory" move!! :D

But seriously, in future as the PLAN becomes more and more capable, their excursions in near seas will only be more politicized. It's quite unfortunate because unlike the US, China doesn't have much undisputed/neutral/friendly waters even in its backyard that it can confidently train and test in. Certainly not outside of the bohai sea
 
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bd popeye said:
Long ago I searched and searched for that info and discovered that Russian CVs had no ability to test engines.
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Could they simply not just lower an aircraft elevator and roll an engine test cart onto it and test it there? Whatever equipment that could not physically fit on the elevator itself can be left in the hanger itself and connected with extra long cables/hoses.

Obviously not ideal, but perfectly doable as far as I can see.
 
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plawolf said:
Could they simply not just lower an aircraft elevator and roll an engine test cart onto it and test it there? Whatever equipment that could not physically fit on the elevator itself can be left in the hanger itself and connected with extra long cables/hoses.

Obviously not ideal, but perfectly doable as far as I can see.
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They would have to have a very stout jig to hold the thrust of the engine that they could very securely mount to the elevator.

That is not something you can roll out and just superficially clamp to the elevator. That would be the problem. They would probably have to do some yard work to the elevator to make a support mount which was recessed (in terms of attachment) into the surface of the elevator, but stout enough to withstand the forces.

The US Carriers have that apparatus built into the fantail of the ship itself.
 
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