Olympics 2024 - discussion thread

[Flanker1949]

 

[siegecrossbow]

Lady Wumao’s triumphant return.

 

[Flanker1949]

The history is repeating itself again.

 

[Ringsword]

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Embarrassing to allow white supremacists a voice in one of China’s newspapers attacking Chinese Olympians. SCMP need a full clean out and replaced with patriots.

I/We don't want your "respect" like the bowing ,grovelling,hugging,ass-kissing Modi-we want to win and all your medals at that -Let them hate as long as they fear(respect will be there-believe me)

 

[Quickie]

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Is that even fair? Euro is a group of countries which mean that they can send multiple teams up to a max of 27 for each sporting event. The other actual countries can only send one team (or a fixed number of athlete) for each event. The outcome would be very different if China can send 27 teams or even more for each event because of its population size.

 

[Petrolicious88]

That's... not my idea; I didn't mean that it should be that way. I meant that I think it's already the current standard of practice for every competitive sport I know of.

You're done? That's all you got left? LOL

I guess. Not much else left to talk about.

 

[Lethe]

For those looking to add fuel to this fire, here's an angle that the American media doesn't appear to have picked up on yet: of the three CAS arbitrators who ruled against Team USA in this case, one is associated with Iran and another with China. Ominous music intensifies!

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Yeah suspicious but not when every international organization is filled with officials from the West... Yeah because only Westerners are fair and honest...

This is gathering steam now. The Washington Post, a leading voice of the American establishment, is going full mask-off over this:

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The case of Jordan Chiles and her contested medal raises an interesting question: Why would any lawyer who prizes his reputation accept a job with the Court of Arbitration for Sport, that illegitimate warren that the International Olympic Committee, oligarchs and other dealers in suitcases of cash use as a legal veneer? The answer must be more than just free tickets. Fees!

For lending his reputation to CAS’s secretive, opaque and stinking-as-a-spoiled-oyster star chamber, the honorable presiding arbitrator Hamid Gharavi got to lunge at the langoustine-piled ice sculptures for two weeks in Paris and charge $300 to $600 per hour for rank conflicts of interest. What a legal lark to be a CAS judge and to lord it over athletes with rulings such as the banning of a Jamaican hammer thrower for a technical failure in her entry paperwork committed during a hurricane outage. Or, in the case of Gharavi, the stripping of gymnast Chiles’s bronze medal over an alleged four-second lapse by U.S. officials in filing a scoring appeal on her behalf, so you can give it to your longtime legal client, Romania, that trove of billable hours. Four seconds — that was the basis the CAS panel used to revoke the bronze medal in floor exercise awarded to Chiles by an actual panel of Olympic gymnastics judges who were there [....]

The third member of this noble triumvirate of a panel is Lu Song of China. He is an arbitrator of investment disputes, a member of the International Commercial Expert Committee of China’s Supreme People’s Court and apparently well known in Geneva arbitration circles. China, of course, is noted for its Olympic integrity.

It should be noted that CAS did not determine that Jordan Chiles should be stripped of her medal, it merely determined that Team USA's appeal was invalid on procedural grounds and that her original score should therefore stand. The decision to reallocate the Bronze medal from Chiles to Bărbosu (rather than taking another path such as awarding shared Bronze medals) came from the IOC as per the

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Such basic factual errors do not serve to advance WaPo's case. In any case, this is a rather astonishing stream of unhinged invective from what is ostensibly a respectable publication, and clearly demonstrates the attitude that Washington has to international bodies that it does not control.

 

[Lethe]

And yet CAS has delayed a verdict on this case for a second time, now for a further three days till August 16th. There must actually be some meaningful issues here that the ad-hoc division is grappling with.

CAS has apparently dismissed the appeal from Vinesh Phogat and India's Olympic Association. I can't find the actual statement from CAS, but it likely doesn't matter as previous decisions from the ad-hoc division have only disclosed the "operative" aspects of the decision, with full reasoning to be published later.

In a statement, IOA President PT Usha expressed “shock and disappointment at the decision of the Sole Arbitrator at the CAS to dismiss wrestler Vinesh Phogat’s application against the United World Wrestling (UWW) and the International Olympic Committee (IOC).”

“The operative part of the August 14 decision, which dismisses Vinesh’s application to be awarded a shared silver medal in women’s 50 kg category at the Paris Olympic Games has significant implications for her in particular and the sporting community at large,” the IOA stated.

“The marginal discrepancy of a 100 grams and the resultant consequences has profound impact, not only in terms of Vinesh’s career but also raises serious questions about ambiguous rules and their interpretation.”

“The IOA firmly believes that the total disqualification of an athlete for such a weight infraction on the second of two days warrants a deeper examination. Our legal representatives had duly brought this out in their submissions before the Sole Arbitrator.”

“The matter involving Vinesh highlights the stringent and, arguably, inhumane regulations that fail to account for the physiological and psychological stresses athletes, particularly female athletes, undergo. It is a stark reminder of the need for more equitable and reasonable standards that prioritise athletes’ well-being.”

“In light of the order of the CAS, the IOA continues to stand in full support of Ms. Phogat and is exploring further legal options. The IOA is committed to ensuring that Vinesh’s case is heard. It will continue to advocate justice and fairness in sports, ensuring that the rights and dignity of athletes and everyone in the sports fold are upheld at all times.”

From these comments it seems that India's case really was just that "these rules suck". Even if that claim has merit, the appropriate venue to air it is before United World Wrestling, the federation that establishes the rules for Olympic competition, as FIG does for gymnastics or World Aquatics for swimming. The ad-hoc division of CAS certainly isn't going to change those rules or allow for one athlete to be exempted from them.

 

[grulle]

Did anyone hear about this? It would be SOOOO awesome if dragon boat racing made it into the Olympics. A lot of westerners love this activity lol so not only would it have global appeal but it would also be FUNNN. Let's face it, how many Olympic sports are actually "fun" lol.

 

[DuckDuckMoose]

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1823001301430530359

Poor Koreans and Japanese, they thought they were HUWHITE, they're not even good enough to be included on that poster littered with U.S. athletes and a hip-hop icon.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1822995015490007485

At this point add a joint smoking contest with Snoop Dogg as the coach and I'm sure the US is getting a gold medal.