Olympics 2024 - discussion thread

[zbb]

No, there's nothing to suggest any cheating here.

My understanding is that in weight-classed combat sports, everyone struggles to "make weight" before the match -- through dehydration, caloric restriction, aerobic activity, etc. After you make weight, you're completely free to hydrate, eat, etc. before the match itself. And everyone does, because why would you want to compete while you're dehydrated and under-energized?

But if you then have another match very soon after the first one, and there's another weigh-in for the second match, you now have to make weight again -- through dehydration, caloric restriction, aerobic activity, etc.. And here, the Indian wrestler made weight on the morning of the first day and won three matches later that day. She then had to make weight again the very next day, and scrambled to do so. But she ultimately came up short, missing by 100 grams. To reiterate, there's nothing to suggest any cheating here, just a failed attempt to make weight.

She was only over the weight limit by 100 grams, couldn't she just let out a little bit (100cc) of blood to get under the limit? For standard blood donations, people give 450cc of blood.

 

[coolgod]

She was only over the weight limit by 100 grams, couldn't she just let out a little bit (100cc) of blood to get under the limit? For standard blood donations, people give 450cc of blood.

Or just shave bald, that's probably easiest and doesn't affect performance.

 

[FriedRiceNSpice]

She was only over the weight limit by 100 grams, couldn't she just let out a little bit (100cc) of blood to get under the limit? For standard blood donations, people give 450cc of blood.

Well, losing 100cc blood may not make a notable difference to most people, but could definitely affect performance enough to cost her an Olympic match. At that level of competition, every minor factor affecting performance matters, as the experience of several of the Chinese swimmers demonstrate.

 

[grulle]

Hou Zhihui's last lift that got her the gold. The courage and strength of the Chinese people never ceases to amaze me.

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[zbb]

Well, losing 100cc blood may not make a notable difference to most people, but could definitely affect performance enough to cost her an Olympic match. At that level of competition, every minor factor affecting performance matters, as the experience of several of the Chinese swimmers demonstrate.

For sure it will adversely affect performance especially considering she is likely already extremely dehydrated. However, it's still a lot better than being disqualified.

 

[FriedRiceNSpice]

For sure it will adversely affect performance especially considering she is likely already extremely dehydrated. However, it's still a lot better than being disqualified.

I forgot about the severe dehydration, I wonder if that would turn the otherwise minor performance impact into a potential health/safety risk. For folks more familiar with sports involving strict weight class requirements, is drawing blood to make weight viable?

 

[Ringsword]

Hou Zhihui's last lift that got her the gold. The courage and strength of the Chinese people never ceases to amaze me.

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Delightful but nerve wracking afternoon-watched Hou win gold but Romanian girl was very good,field hockey couldn't stand the tension /couldn't tear my eyes away(wonderful forging experience for Chinese womens' team -they may shine /dominate like the volleyball girls-good looking too! Speaking of artistic and good looking applauded when China won artistic swimming.Good day overall making up for earlier losses.

 

[manqiangrexue]

Delightful but nerve wracking afternoon-watched Hou win gold but Romanian girl was very good,field hockey couldn't stand the tension /couldn't tear my eyes away(wonderful forging experience for Chinese womens' team -they may shine /dominate like the volleyball girls-good looking too! Speaking of artistic and good looking applauded when China won artistic swimming.Good day overall making up for earlier losses.

Hou Zhihui was always supposed to take that gold. The winning total was only 206. 3 months ago in Thailand, Hou did 217 to beat her own teammate Jiang Huihua for the Olympic spot. Today she was just too nervous about becoming double Olympic champion. Nervousness affects the snatch terribly but less so on the clean and jerk. Oh, and her Romanian opponent also busted out all the good stuff; she totalled 205 today when her best ever previously was only 199. All these factors had to come together for us to see that fight. With anything missing from that equation, Hou would run every one of them over like a Jeep over a coke can.

 

[azn_cyniq]

No, there's nothing to suggest any cheating here.

My understanding is that in weight-classed combat sports, everyone struggles to "make weight" before the match -- through dehydration, caloric restriction, aerobic activity, etc. After you make weight, you're completely free to hydrate, eat, etc. before the match itself. And everyone does, because why would you want to compete while you're dehydrated and under-energized?

But if you then have another match very soon after the first one, and there's another weigh-in for the second match, you now have to make weight again -- through dehydration, caloric restriction, aerobic activity, etc.. And here, the Indian wrestler made weight on the morning of the first day and won three matches later that day. She then had to make weight again the very next day, and scrambled to do so. But she ultimately came up short, missing by 100 grams. To reiterate, there's nothing to suggest any cheating here, just a failed attempt to make weight.

I see. Thanks for correcting me.

 

[Quan8410]

What ignoring the Chinese men's swimming golds in 100m freestyle and 4x100m medley does to a MFer.

Sure, swimming is outlier with maybe weighlifting but China men team sucks in many other sports which requires strength, from basketball, volleyball, athletics, boxing, etc. Even in swimming, if not for Pan Zanle being too good, men swimming team will earn nothing. The two gold swimming medal is Pan Zanle carrying his team. Not only the number of medals earned from female teams are higher, the number of sport female teams earn are also more diversified with non-dominating sport like hockey, taekwondo, bmx, etc. To conclude, female carry this olympic for China hard. Men are not even close, especially some disgrace like Shi Yuqi.