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Doombreed said:

Amazing what a bunch of satisfied twelve year olds can do, isn't it? No matter what happens. Hong Kong has reach an inflection point.

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MwRYum said:

Pfff, after 2 months of delay and 2 previous turn-arounds, that crook of a professor finally said he'll do that tomorrow...and in his statement is still packed to the brim with BS, absolving himself and insurgents all responsibilities!

To be honest, I'd rather he commit hara-kiri than surrender, because he and his dishonourable ilk have no hope of redemption through civil punishment.

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SinoSoldier said:

To play the devil's advocate, is it confirmed that the pictured individual is indeed a police officer? There is a lot of misreporting on the matter, insufficient independent reporting, and enough reasons to spin an inaccurate photo to one's own agenda. Besides, his outfit suggests that he is an off duty officer (if he is one in the first place), which implies that harsh repercussions are not necessarily needed for the perpetrator unlike if he were on duty.

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Caught on camera: Protesters dish out beating to suspected undercover police officers

PUBLISHED : Monday, 01 December, 2014, 1:08pm
UPDATED : Monday, 01 December, 2014, 1:34pm

Violence erupted in Admiralty on Monday morning following students’ attempts to storm government headquarters, with at least one suspected undercover police officer rushed to hospital after he was kicked and stomped on the ground by students.

The chaotic brawl, captured on camera by the South China Morning Post, began at around 9am, an hour after police had repelled protesters’ attempts to storm government headquarters with pepper spray and batons.

The atmosphere in the area was tense as angry students exchanged taunts with police officers standing on an overhead footbridge on Harcourt Road before uniformed police moved back to Lung Wo Road.

The suspected policeman lays one the ground after a sustained beating by protesters. Photo: SCMP Pictures

An argument broke out between at least three suspected plain-clothes officers and protesters. More than a dozen students gave chase and attacked the three suspected policemen when one of the officers signalled with two fingers for them to come ahead and fight as they walked into Admiralty Centre.

The Post’s video captures the scene inside the building, where a crowd of some 200 protesters and journalists had surged towards the chaotic scenes. The footage shows one suspected policeman on the ground with several protesters punching, kicking and stomping on him.

At this point another of the suspected undercover policemen retrieves a baton from his bag and uses it to create distance between himself and protesters, threatening to hit anyone who does not back away.

The video then shows the officer being surrounded by protesters, before panning to the policeman on the ground, who appears to be semi-conscious. Some protesters try to revive him. The policeman regains consciousness and picks up what appears to be an identification card.

A suspected undercover policeman uses a baton to clear distance between himself and angry protesters. Photo: SCMP Pictures

The presence of the baton further agitated the crowd and the camera then pans back to the policeman who was previously seen holding it. He is being swarmed by protesters who have him in a chokehold, pushing, shoving and hitting him as other demonstrators try to get him out of the way.

As one protester grappled to remove the weapon from the officer, another policeman stumbled on some steps and was crushed.

Around five minutes after the fight, police reinforcements arrived and further chaos ensued as tactical support officers, armed with helmets, shields and pepper spray, charged in to rescue their suspected colleagues.

Officers struggled to gain control and tensions mounted as a bottle of water was thrown from the direction of protesters at the police, who charged back at the crowd, knocking people over in a bid to secure the area.

Protesters chanted: “Put away batons!” before several arrests were finally made.

At least one protester was rushed to hospital by ambulance along with the suspected policeman.

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AssassinsMace said:

The British are angry that their MPs are being denied entry into Hong Kong. How about China sending these Occupy protestors on a one way trip to Great Britain. And China can do what I read about some American freed from being a hostage in the Middle East where the US government charged him for the plane ride home.

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Doombreed said:

But maybe the fault should be laid with Beijing rather than the young protesters? I'm not sure if you're in the adamantly Pro-Beijing camp, but most of the Hong Kongers I've spoken to feels that they're not being given a real choice. The choice is a long hard fight for democracy with a slim chance of winning and living in the shadows of Beijing. You guys always bring up the surveys and the signatures. But the choice shouldn't be Pro-OC or anti-OC. It should be Chinese style democracy or Real democracy. I dare say the results would be a lot different. The initial surge of popular support isn't an illusion. What the survey results really show is a people so scared of the repercussions, they are afraid to chose the hard option to get what they really wanted. If you can present a magic button to every Hong Konger that says "push this and there will be real democracy in Hong Kong, no questions asked". You're telling me that they wouldn't push it? The difference is the young protesters, precisly due to their young idealism, are not afraid to fight for what they believes in.

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Doombreed said:

Wow. I feel your frastration with the disruption in your life. I'm really sorry that you feel that way towards your fellow Hong Kongers. And I do hope what you're implying is just bluster.

But maybe the fault should be laid with Beijing rather than the young protesters? I'm not sure if you're in the adamantly Pro-Beijing camp, but most of the Hong Kongers I've spoken to feels that they're not being given a real choice. The choice is a long hard fight for democracy with a slim chance of winning and living in the shadows of Beijing. You guys always bring up the surveys and the signatures. But the choice shouldn't be Pro-OC or anti-OC. It should be Chinese style democracy or Real democracy. I dare say the results would be a lot different. The initial surge of popular support isn't an illusion. What the survey results really show is a people so scared of the repercussions, they are afraid to chose the hard option to get what they really wanted. If you can present a magic button to every Hong Konger that says "push this and there will be real democracy in Hong Kong, no questions asked". You're telling me that they wouldn't push it? The difference is the young protesters, precisly due to their young idealism, are not afraid to fight for what they believes in.

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superdog said:

The problem is exactly that. For a long time people have been trained by dominant ideologies to believe that a more direct election equals better (real?) democracy equals a better future for Hong Kong. However, more and more people nowadays began to question the validity of such a belief as things like irrationalities in the OC movement forces them to reconsider the complexity of the real world, where "a magic button for real democracy" does not exist literally or metaphorically (e.g. a certain form of election). You're right that people don't just "forget" they desire change and wants democracy, but it is realizations like this that is causing the OC movement to lose support at the most fundamental level.

Unfortunately, for the relatively naive young protesters, this level of understanding is difficult to achieve. Instead they tend to think those who do not share their belief as simply being afraid of repercussions.

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"To let them crash and burn down their path, have the police break a few bones in them, let them rot in jail for a few years, and let them live their lives crippled with criminal records; should they finally found regrets in their hearts 40 years later that's their bloody business, as we've done all we could in as far as obligation goes".

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wtlh said:

It has been repeated over and over the radio and TV here in the UK---although it is far from being a headline news. And Cameron has lodged a "formal complaint" to China for denying visas to the MPs.

The British are free to try their chances, and the Chinese are free to deny them. That is the nature of the political game. The British saw a slim chance to re-establish and regain some influences in Hong Kong, and tried the long shot. Beijing did not yield, so the long shot came to nothing---well, at least the British can say that they have at least tried their chances and have no regrets. TBH, I don't suppose any of the MPs actually had high expectations of China being as soft and weak as Ukraine and agree to let them in. And of course, they are obligated to make a fuss of it to make the best of what the situation has left them with. Both the Beijing refusal and the expression of "anger" from the British part are expected from both parties. Nobody are really angry, and both parties know what others are up to.

So give it just a few days, when the propaganda value of this issue wanes, expect Sino-British relations to go on about as normal as before. There are still enough pragmatists in the cilvil service to give logical advices, and the ministers in positions of responsibility still at least try to listen to them.

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AssassinsMace said:

Of course, it's all political. The British have to show something since they've gotten so much criticism from these protestors. I just hope they cancel Prince William's trip to China. I'm sure that's going to be dangled out there.

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wtlh said:

From the tone of the press and the politicians here in the UK, that is very unlikely going to happen. They needed China more than China needs them, and they know it. There may be some hardcore cold-war warrior faction who would want to stir up some trouble just prior to the visit, but other than that I cannot see the visit being canceled.

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