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Of course,only real fight may let us know whether J-10 is better than F-16 C/D or not. so every suspection can be rumour.
if you could really saw J-10 and touched it,you will understand that the technology and the industry process is defferent.The level of china industry decide that the quality of flighter can not achieve the level of its design data.And just compare the datas of the flighter,can not get the real answer.
the constructure of J-10 is not good enough,and the life span of the flighter can not achieve the design time.
If you don't understand china,you can not reach the right answer.
if you could really saw J-10 and touched it,you will understand that the technology and the industry process is defferent.The level of china industry decide that the quality of flighter can not achieve the level of its design data.And just compare the datas of the flighter,can not get the real answer.
the constructure of J-10 is not good enough,and the life span of the flighter can not achieve the design time.
If you don't understand china,you can not reach the right answer.
Hey man, come down... I tollaly agree with you on the difference betwwen design specification and final production product in China. Coz I've done some work on automotive design with Chinese companies. And I have to say ofone is right on this one. But (a big BUT) although data doesn't mean much in real life (specially in China), it's all we can discuss about on an internet forum since most of us are only amateurs on PLA. So I don't see anything wrong with discussing data but not real life experience (coz we just simply don't have much real life experience with PLA). Let's get back to the topic of J-10 now. If what ofone said was all true about J-10. Then it is F***ING CHEAP!!! Only about 8 Bugatti Veyrons!
Ofone I presume what you said are all true (you've been working on J-10 and doing research on it too). Then do you know if there'll be a J-10C with twin engine or just single engine but for future aircraft carriers?
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speculator
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why would the J-10 build quality be bad? CAC is one of the biggest aircraft manufacturers in China and has had decades of experience with J-7s (and now FC-1) and not to mention a parts producer for major aircraft companies like Boeing and Airbus. The materials used on the J-10 are not at all radical and there is little chance that it could only cost 10 million. Even the engine alone costs more than 2 million. Also, even if the quality is bad, there is no big deal. Early F-16's had quality/over-usage problem and suffered from metal fatigue.
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Pointblank
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CAC is also a very modern manufacturer as well, with advanced tooling that would not be out of place at Western aircraft companies.
FugitiveVisions
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Thanks for your top secret information. Now I finally know who's getting my vote for least creative internet impostor of the month.
I also come from China ,and a college student in China.
But I do not agree with "ofone".
J-10 can not be so cheap ,maybe cost 21 million dollars .
"J-10 is not good enough to against F-16 C/D"?
I do not think so ,at least J-10 can win Su-30MKK and J-11B easily .
If not so ,PLA won't produce so many J-10 in so short time ,maybe they now have 3 product lines for J-10 ,and a lot of country want to buy the J-10 eagerly .
But I do not agree with "ofone".
J-10 can not be so cheap ,maybe cost 21 million dollars .
"J-10 is not good enough to against F-16 C/D"?
I do not think so ,at least J-10 can win Su-30MKK and J-11B easily .
If not so ,PLA won't produce so many J-10 in so short time ,maybe they now have 3 product lines for J-10 ,and a lot of country want to buy the J-10 eagerly .
Look, there are plenty of people like Ofone on Chinese forums that just enjoy to spend their day spreading stuff like "J-10 is not as good as people think" and that "J-10 is too expensive and such". The fact that he said J-10 only cost 10 million dollar alone should tell you he has no idea what he is talking about. The engine alone would cost 1/3 of that. I mean as for stuff like China not having the same level of workmanship as the West for its products, I don't think anyone doubts that. We've seen plenty of up close pictures of J-10s. I'm sure Crobato can give you a rundown on it.
"mxiong" ,when you use some word like "BSing" ,please see clearly for a while .
Do not you see the word "maybe".
At least ,the test pilot Li Zhonghua said ,J-10 is more advanced than Su-27 ,and in the air combat in the northwest part of China ,J-10 win the Su-30MKK easily ,so PLA want to produce more J-10 than J-11B .
And J-10 is much cheaper is another reason ,J-10 cost no more than 200million RMB ,that is confirmed .
Do not you see the word "maybe".
At least ,the test pilot Li Zhonghua said ,J-10 is more advanced than Su-27 ,and in the air combat in the northwest part of China ,J-10 win the Su-30MKK easily ,so PLA want to produce more J-10 than J-11B .
And J-10 is much cheaper is another reason ,J-10 cost no more than 200million RMB ,that is confirmed .
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