*New J-10 Thread*

[wlchang]

When people PS pictures, there got to be a motivation behind. From J10's long PS history, we can clearly see that most if not all PSed works were from the early to mid days when real pics were really rare. I can see mainly 2 reasons behind those PSed pics:
1. some people would get short and instant fame on the internet since most people didn't know what a real one looked like. This was a major reason.
2. some people who did see or know J10 had to use other aircrafts' pictures to "leak" what they knew to avoid getting into any trouble.

Now, these 2 reasons don't apply to J10 any more. People just need to sit and wait for official high quality pics.

Having said that, those professional photographers do have ways to improve their works to make them look better. It's a common thing for news medias to do that. But that's for a completely different reason.

If you want to study carefully about PSed pictures, concentrate on all those Jxx works, that's what can generate the same interest as the old J10 PS works did. It's a waste of time making PSed J10s now, cause you won't get anything back.

There are other reasons too why they do it - like making the cover photos more interesting and the issue of public display of serial nos.

 

[crobato]

I found them to be exact to the best estimation that I can make. (The angles may look different because of the different length of reflections of the slats - i.e. a visual effect.)

LOL. I can see with my own eyes under magnification that they are different.

Point no. 3 and point no. 4 are not contradictory at all. The reflections is longer due to the fact that the missiles were cut & pasted and they were moved to slightly different position.

Huh? And how is that? The missiles are correctly and exactly placed in proportion to the slats in both planes.

It doesn't seem at all to me that's the case. The digits look smudged and it's not anything to do with colour contrasting.

Look. All the digits look smudged and that's because of the low contrast orange set against a low contrast blue. I've seen this in every picture not just on J-10s, but on everything like J-7s to J-8IIs to J-11s and JH-7As. I guess this is the reason why the PLAAF chose this color. When the same planes had dark blue or red color for the digits, the serials come out a lot sharper.

Well, I can see we have different opinions about it. Let's agree to disagree then.

On the latest pic that I say is PSed, I can think of six points that say it's so. I don't have the time to explain it so I guess I'll have to leave it to others.

I just think you are just in a witch hunt. It's like people who are preset to believe in witches or Nostradamus, nothing you can say can change their mind. Despite having no clear evidence and the presence of rational explanations otherwise.

By the way, that picture comes from a magazine. Some cosmetic cleanup may be involved but that does not interfere with the theme of the picture.

There are other reasons too why they do it - like making the cover photos more interesting and the issue of public display of serial nos.

If there is a real issue in the public display of serial nos., they can always delete it as they have done so many times in the past. They obviously don't have that issue now because these are now cleared by the censors and for public consumption. Future J-10 orbat and deployment are the ones currently being kept secret for now.

 

[challenge]

No. The missiles are outboard of the wing center. Look carefully at the wing. Where is the middle of the wing? The inner edge of the forward wing slat. Where are the missiles? Each is justly located outside of the inner edge, which puts them outward of the wing's center.

the short range missile mounted in the outer wing,may be air to air simulation .I recall in the 90's a picture of pakistani AF J-7 carry similiar equipment in the missile pylon,below the picture stated that the aircraft carrying air to air simulator.

 

[crobato]

the short range missile mounted in the outer wing,may be air to air simulation .I recall in the 90's a picture of pakistani AF J-7 carry similiar equipment in the missile pylon,below the picture stated that the aircraft carrying air to air simulator.

The reason why the J-10 and the FC-1 carries dummies all the time is that their aerodynamics are optimized around having two missiles. This is a trick originally used by F-16s and also used by F-18s. As a result, these aircraft fly best having missiles, dummy or otherwise, loaded on their wings.

It really doesn't work as well on the J-7.

 

[bd popeye]

Gentlemen , This thread has become very large at 60+ pages. So I've opend a new J-10 thread. Please post there!

I moved about 15 post over there...Thread closed..

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