SteelBird
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It seems that you must have certain post numbers before you can use the PM function. It seems to be 15 post if I remember correctly.
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It seems that you must have certain post numbers before you can use the PM function. It seems to be 15 post if I remember correctly.
yeas that rigth. After you have made 15 post, you will be able to use PM feature. Our admn. have decided that its needed to prevent spammers to use it to harrash others. If you have proplems with the issue, please contact webmaster about it.
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Also, please remember that this is english language forum, and if the chinese language discussion continues, Im forced to delete them. Read the Forum rules!
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Many chinese scientists have a bad habit ,that is look down upon themselves .
So they always think the technologies imported from other advanced countries is better than that we devised by our own hands .And then just import and import ,at last our own design industry will be destroyed .
Also for a long time ,under this bad spirit ,it is so difficult for J-10 to survive .Almost 20 years ,so many scientist pay out their most valuable time to this project ,and even so ,they have faced the crisis that this project will be doomed to the grave .
And the most valuable thing that we got from the J-10 project is that we can design and produce an advanced plane all by ourselves ,and this also cultivate a strong research group .
So they always think the technologies imported from other advanced countries is better than that we devised by our own hands .And then just import and import ,at last our own design industry will be destroyed .
Also for a long time ,under this bad spirit ,it is so difficult for J-10 to survive .Almost 20 years ,so many scientist pay out their most valuable time to this project ,and even so ,they have faced the crisis that this project will be doomed to the grave .
And the most valuable thing that we got from the J-10 project is that we can design and produce an advanced plane all by ourselves ,and this also cultivate a strong research group .
goldenpanda
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I think these J10 guys gave good interviews
I translated some parts of their speech
So yeah I'm seeing more and more confident leaders in Chinese engineering. In fact we always had good top people. The problem is at the bottom.
I translated some parts of their speech
So yeah I'm seeing more and more confident leaders in Chinese engineering. In fact we always had good top people. The problem is at the bottom.
Why we look down upon ourselves?Just because there are too many import.
Don't know what are you talking about..........
That is just one of the reasons ,and only the success of so complex projects like the "J-10 and the WS-10A" can give chinese aviation companies enough confidence .
Product and process are different ,the process of this two projects is so long and some failures is so frustrated that for some time ,the main designer "Song Wen cong" and "Zhang En he" even lost the confidence .When the projects are completed ,the tasks to improve them are not too hard .
Lol, how many locomotives in the west reach 300km?
None, other than the German ones.
Maglev or magnetic levitation is currently the cutting edge of the state of the art. Why do you think an electrical company like Siemens is involved?
And which Brazilian plane holds 90 persons?
Sorry but Godson 2 is over 1 GHz. Reliability over EMP? All chips are not reliable against EMP. You have to design special chip packages and Faraday cages over the equipment to shield them.
And how many other countries besides American and the Soviet Union that ever sent an astronaut to space?
None. Not Japan, not Germany, not France, not the Great Britain.
There is nothing wrong with being third. Just so long you have actually done something.
Lol. Some Americans think that the US secretely allows technology to seep through to China to help create a "threat" so the US can justify their own defense programs. Can't let the competition fall too behind, can we?
Nothing wrong with that. At least it shows an open economy where the world can participate.
Lol. Ordinance is very different from aeronautical engineering. Tianjin isn't very near centers of aeronautical and electronic engineering like Chengdu, Shenyang, and Nanjing.
Planes are not made of cheap labor. They require an investment in the most complex machinery, including 5 axis milling machines. They require skilled and trained labor, which even in China, the wages of such are going up every year.
That's because during a turn, a low wing aspect delta at a higher angle of attack produces more drag than a sweep wing with a higher wing aspect.
Oh I see. Just remember to properly disinfect yourself and use deodorants to cleanse out the odors. Then you will be fine.
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Actually Embraer is a Brazilian company and is the third or fourth largest commercial aircraft maker in the world. They make small jet liners and private jets but the largest planes can hold +100 people.
optionsss
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Actually the Chinese automative industry, which is wide open to the international world, the local company actually aclaimed 38% of the market share in 2006. The price is the main factor but these aren't bad quality, atleast they are good enough to win over a contract to produce taxi for london. I am sure if they did not pass a certain western standard, this wouldn't happen. A lot of people have this speculation about Chinese company only can kept their market share by monopolization, you know if you never live in both the western world and China for a long time, it is hard to appreciate the impovements in the Chinese goods. :china:
I actually have some doubts about how much do u really know about the J-10. For most military projects, only the core group of engineer can really have a good picture about things they are building. The projects would be dividied into several sections the manufacturing, testings prior, testing after the project... the list goes on and on. My dad's company was working on a joint project(military) with the Canadian government. It was not until very late did they know what the program was for. Before that they were just told "you suppose design this thing, that fits the following requirement...". If you ever get a chance to talk to the top tier scientists from the US national lad, who had left for a high paying job(sadly), most of them have no clue about the purpose of their work, except for the acedimic ones. I am sure, J-10 is a much bigger project, involving much more people...
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We on this forum know a lot more than you think. If you are one of those who got kicked off Chinese forums for posting junk and decides that it's time to spread rumours, then you can seriously go somewhere else. I don't mind you stating things like J-10 is not as good as people think, but do not speak like you are superior or know more than anyone else on this forum until you have proven you have the right to do so.
It's in the works, but not ready yet. Different models of ARJ-21 can compare to the largest ERJ planes. Basically, this regional aircraft industry is current just Bombardier vs Embraer, but we may see AVIC-1 and Sukhoi in the game in the future.
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