*New J-10 Thread*

[monitor]

J-10 may be equiped by PLA Naval Air Force as well

Form the video that released by chinese official news agence, I think Jian-10 have or will soon been equiped by PLA Naval Air Force as well. At the 21 second of the video which posted at sinodefence.com, a Senior Colonel pilot is wearing naval air force suit. Unfortunately, we can not see the number of the craft he operates.:china:

 

[Neutral Zone]

Wow! I thought the J-10 looked impressive in the unofficial pics but up close in that CCTV report it just seems stunning, a really impressive looking machine!

This is a great day for PLAAF, they're obviously very proud of their new machine. Congratulations to all those who have been involved in the project! :china:

 

[SteelBird]

Ahhhh??? Where's the clip? Could you please re-post it? thanks!

Very short clip, but it shows the J-10 can have in-flight refuelling.

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[crobato]

There is heavily degraded performance on internet on the following areas: Taiwan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Philippines, Japan, S. Korea, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia. Looks like its starting to get better as days go by. But apparently 6 fiberoptic undersea cables are fractured.

Now to other things.

I must be going blind here, because the number on that J-10 looks to be 80754

Yes I thought so too, though I thought the "8" is an optical illusion where "5" should be the real number. First digit 5 and fourth digit 5 - 11 would be 44 or 44th division.

I am personally surprised at the high serial number of 74. The reasons for this is, assuming that each regiment has an average of 24 planes---

130th Regiment should be counted from 01 to 24. We have seen only one J-10 picture from this, with serial 50150 or plane No. 10.

131th Regiment would be 25 to 49. Almost all pics of the 44th's J-10s are of this regiment but were all taken in 2004 before the numbering system were revised. (41X5X). Should be 5025X to 5045X.

132nd Regiment would be 50 to 74. Funny that this regiment is number 132, since Chengdu AC is Factory no. 132 in PLA terms.

So I really don't know what is happening on the 44th, or to what matter are they reorganized. Hard to believe they would have 70+ J-10s alone in one division and all three regiments are equipped with it.

Also this J-10 has the uplink on the back which makes this a J-10 of the newest batch. Those recieved by the 44th back in 2004 didn't have this uplink unless they have been returned to the factory and upgraded.

 

[Deino]

I agree with You that the detail revealed by these pictures are much more interesting than the fact of its unveilance itself !!

Therefore I just strated to "collect" some notes ...

- the very first picture with the complete line-up shows late-updated aircrafts (with that white antenna behind the canopy) with numbers within 1054x are from the 3rd. Division ... and the last two (at the end of the line-up) aircraft are twin seaters with their larger canopy. Additional the other line-up picture showing the right side clearly shows an aircraft numbered 10741 ... are these from a second regiment ???

- Most serials have beed PS-ed but the one picture with the J-10 + J-11 shows a number 50754 indicating - as noted by crobato - a very high number of J-10's within the 44. Division ... this may led to the question if the 44. Div is something similar to the USAF Luke AFB with its many F-16 sqaudrons acting as a training, tactics and testing base for that type !

- additional this 44. Div aircraft is clearly a modified or late-production model .

- colourS: these two birds on the end of that video numbered No. 22 and 26are early machines from the 44. Div. ! Here's interesting that no. 22 has the old numbering system "41252" in dark grey whereas no. 26 wears a yellow number on its tail with still a grey 26 !

- IFR-probe: Here I thougt until now it's more a probe similar to the French Mirage's but now it's clearly a bolt-on system similar to the J-8H/F's attached about in the middle of the right front fuselage. Besides that I always thought that the IFR-tests prototype was 1005 ... here I tend more to 1006 which was related to air-to-ground-weapons testing !

- air-to-ground-weapons testing are not only captive tests but also actual live droppings ... and rocket-pods too !

- and my most favourite is the very clear picture of the original white 01-prototype showing not a Lavi-clone but clearly a near serila-standard AL-31FN-powered J-10 !!!

... just some thoughts for now ... maybe some more later !

CHeers, Deino :rofl:

 

[crobato]

Indeed I like to note the details.

-In one of the pictures, there is a PL-11 hanging under a wing. The wing is white with blue and red stripes, which means it can only be the one and only 01 proto! This indicates the proto is a complete aircraft with a fully functional radar and fire control system.

-I think the planes with the probe are both 1005 and 1006.

-The number 26 for the 44th Division planes are in alignment of the evidence that the regiment is about 28 planes in all. This comes from the Google Earth image of the Yunnan base that shows 28 hangers in all. At least for this particular regiment.

-The number of pilots for the 3rd Division J-10 regiments is 25, 24 pilots plus the commander. So far we can say that the regiment is about 25 planes.

-Noted that images of 02 and 05 have surfaced wearing the old camouflage. I believe these images were taken during the inauguration ceremony in March 30, 2003, where it is reported that 02 and 05 were present to execute some flybys.

-Please note that the regimental number is "0" for the J-10s of the 3rd Division. At the same time, the Su-30MKKs are now "1"---which is a clear demotion on the part of the Su-30s and a promotion on the part of the J-10s. Now you know who is the new top dog.

 

[photo pds]

j-10 is look very impresive for me because china has a good deverlope on there miritaly and there use not many years to use the forth-generration aircraft.J-10 is the simbol of that.

 

[tphuang]

There is heavily degraded performance on internet on the following areas: Taiwan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Philippines, Japan, S. Korea, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia. Looks like its starting to get better as days go by. But apparently 6 fiberoptic undersea cables are fractured.

Yes I thought so too, though I thought the "8" is an optical illusion where "5" should be the real number. First digit 5 and fourth digit 5 - 11 would be 44 or 44th division.

I am personally surprised at the high serial number of 74. The reasons for this is, assuming that each regiment has an average of 24 planes---

130th Regiment should be counted from 01 to 24. We have seen only one J-10 picture from this, with serial 50150 or plane No. 10.

131th Regiment would be 25 to 49. Almost all pics of the 44th's J-10s are of this regiment but were all taken in 2004 before the numbering system were revised. (41X5X). Should be 5025X to 5045X.

132nd Regiment would be 50 to 74. Funny that this regiment is number 132, since Chengdu AC is Factory no. 132 in PLA terms.

So I really don't know what is happening on the 44th, or to what matter are they reorganized. Hard to believe they would have 70+ J-10s alone in one division and all three regiments are equipped with it.

Also this J-10 has the uplink on the back which makes this a J-10 of the newest batch. Those recieved by the 44th back in 2004 didn't have this uplink unless they have been returned to the factory and upgraded.

yeah, it's still incredibly slow accessing the Chinese forums, which stinks, since I want to actually download that video.

Also, when you mention the uplink, are you takling about the antenna on the back?

 

[Rising China]

J-10 Announcement by the Chinese government
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[maglomanic]

yeah, it's still incredibly slow accessing the Chinese forums, which stinks, since I want to actually download that video.

Also, when you mention the uplink, are you takling about the antenna on the back?

If you are talking about the news video, then try this (got it from AFM posted by gattling). I was able to download from here

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