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coolgod

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Judging by the Pakistanis in twitter and reddit, he seems to be in a very good position to win. China should help him out through sharing reserves or some other means. The deal with Russia if it passes, could help with the inflation.
I forgot where I read it, but shortly after Pakistan FM visited China recently, someone online tried to interpret some of Wang Yi's words as saying China will provide security guarantees to Pakistan. I thought it was odd and an exaggeration at the time, then the whole Imran Khan thing vote thing came out.
 

supercat

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Imran Khan survived a move to oust him as Pakistan's prime minister on Sunday, getting a reprieve when the deputy speaker of parliament blocked a no-confidence motion as unconstitutional. Khan, whose fate was not immediately clear, advised the country's president to dissolve parliament, leading to fresh political instability in the nuclear-armed country of 220 million people. Stay with TOI for all updates
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Overbom

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US pressuring China from all sides. First Myanmar (succeeded), Kazakhstan (failed), Russia (succeeded, but mixed results), then Pakistan (seems to have failed), and now Kazakhstan(failed) again

China needs to go to the offensive to disrupt the enemy's tempo. Cambodia , Solomon Islands were good successes. Next stop should be Middle East, let's see what will come out of Xi's visit to Saudi Arabia
 

Michaelsinodef

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US pressuring China from all sides. First Myanmar (succeeded), Kazakhstan (failed), Russia (succeeded, but mixed results), then Pakistan (seems to have failed), and now Kazakhstan(failed) again
Didn't Myanmar kinda succeed, but then immediately they began cozing up to China or something lol.

Also haven't Kazakhstan been 'kinda' anti-Russia (or shown pro-US) though? Not sure how they are in relation to China though.
 

Overbom

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Didn't Myanmar kinda succeed, but then immediately they began cozing up to China or something lol.
They destroyed the country, endangered/stalled the economic corridor BRI there, and made them an unstable civil war country right next to China. That's a win for the US, even if the current gov is friendlish to China


Also haven't Kazakhstan been 'kinda' anti-Russia (or shown pro-US) though? Not sure how they are in relation to China though.
My own hopium thinking is that Kazakhstan might have talked to China to do that in order to split from Russia and go further towards China. We will see, its too early to make conclusions but one thing is certain, Kazakhstan must had something to rely upon to make such big statements (and that's not the US as it is almost irrelevant now in Central Asia)
 

Abominable

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US pressuring China from all sides. First Myanmar (succeeded), Kazakhstan (failed), Russia (succeeded, but mixed results), then Pakistan (seems to have failed), and now Kazakhstan(failed) again

China needs to go to the offensive to disrupt the enemy's tempo. Cambodia , Solomon Islands were good successes. Next stop should be Middle East, let's see what will come out of Xi's visit to Saudi Arabia
Not everything is about China. America is just putting pressure on countries to sanction Russia.
 

xypher

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They destroyed the country, endangered/stalled the economic corridor BRI there, and made them an unstable civil war country right next to China. That's a win for the US, even if the current gov is friendlish to China
The previous government was also cordial with China.
My own hopium thinking is that Kazakhstan might have talked to China to do that in order to split from Russia and go further towards China. We will see, its too early to make conclusions but one thing is certain, Kazakhstan must had something to rely upon to make such big statements (and that's not the US as it is almost irrelevant now in Central Asia)
Might be. Kazakhstan has reasonable fears that they are the next country to be targeted under the so-called "discrimination of Russians" pretext by Russia to take their northern territories - it is not groundless as Russian senators already made such statements in the past. Even Putin himself made a speech in 2020 eerily similar to what he said about Ukraine - that Kazakhstan is a fake country, Russians gifted Kazakhstan its territories, etc. And since Kazakhstan is a Central Asian country and not "blonde, blue-eyed European people" Ukraine, there won't be as big of a reaction from the West. So if I were them, I would definitely hedge bets with China and try to develop tight cooperation with it. Iirc, Tokaev speaks fluent Mandarin and worked as an attache in Beijing during Soviet times.
 
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