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Cyclist

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But you're not rebutting my points; you are just restating your personal preferences.

Even wannabe drug dealer knows that LOL

If we do, we're screwed. Right now, we're moving forward faster than the whole developed world combined based on Chinese science. This was much more true of the past, far less now.

Yeah... that's kinda how the world works. They fear you, then they convince themselves they like you to make themselves feel less like a bitch. Nobody rules through love, only through power and fear. It's the real world.

Completely different circumstances. They are allowed to export these things (and these are not good things I would want my kids to like even if they were Chinese) because Japan/Korea themselves are non-threatening. If China tried, just hearing the China part of it turns Westerners off because they associate the world with fear and competition rather than comfort. When Americans hear the word, "Japanese" they are so comfortable; it's like, "My little doggie is here!" LOL With "China" they feel a chill down their spines.

I don't know about video games; I know they fuck up kids' lives and I'm not letting my kid become and addict. Video games are not China's cultural highlight; food is. But it's not like Japanese anime or K-pop even though Chinese food makes much more money and has a far wider appeal. Why? Because China's powerful and it scares people so they eat the food but block the cultural aspect. This is what happens when you try to use cultural influence or soft power in a hostile country. This is why it's a fool's errand.
As I said, we need to agree to disagree. You have personal preferences whether China needs to improve its PR or not, and I do too. I am still not convinced with all your points that China does not need to improve its public relations as so far China did the opposite of what you suggest. I already see that China is keep improving its public relations, like going global with CGTN or CCTV. Many reporters from those medias also creating youtube/twitter accounts to voice their opinions to create China's image. Chinese companies also inviting many foreigners to many cities in China and to promote Chinese cities in the youtube channel.

As the case if youtube/twitter got shutdown, China can start to promote from TikTok or maybe WeiBo can go global too, like DouYin/TikTok.
 

Cyclist

Junior Member
Many people in the 90's who emigrated to the US also didn't like the US as a country, they were drawn to and admired the areas that the US was powerful in, e.g. the US academic system. In fact this is still happening
US academic system considered as soft power or hard power?
 

escobar

Brigadier
IMHO, China needs to learn from how South Korea can export its k-pop culture or anime/manga culture from Japan. The one that I see there is potential and China already start to utilize to grow its soft power is from video games. China can grow soft power and earn money at the same time.
Never understand why people here think of kpop/anime/manga culture as some kind of utile softpower in the GPC era...
When China was the supreme power in Asia, it ran things differently. Where everyone got to live as they wanted so long as they were civilised and reasonable, and China didn’t have to spend its entire life at war trying to keep everyone in line.
Then we have opposite perception of that. The "soft hegemony theory" is a nice joke, even more in this era
 
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9dashline

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Never understand why people here think of kpop/anime/manga culture as some kind of utile softpower in the GPC era...
All the anime, nintendo and sony walkmans and playstations in the world didnt save Japan from Plaza Accord...China is bad at PR but at end of day it did not capitulate to US on trade and tech war... and now China is becoming semiconductor independent, which is far more important strategic objective, whereas Japan completely gave up (see Canon, Nikon, etc)
 

Wangxi

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Soft power matters a lot, no one can deny it.

The geopolitical realities have changed dramatically and China cannot afford to live in a cocoon. Chinese companies are starting to capture global markets and China’s Belt and Road Initiative encompasses projects in 130 countries. All these grand plans are dependent on China’s soft power. When people like your country, they eagerly buy your products, visit your country and spend money, learn your language and culture, defend your country, and treat your fellow citizens nice when the latter travel or live abroad. Politicians around the world will also line up to meet with your leader and make deals. Basically, life is a lot easier when you’re popular and loved.

Consider how many people of Chinese heritage in Hong Kong are brainwashed to hate China. Obviously, the Chinese leadership didn’t bother to look at what the heck Hong Kong’s youth were learning in schools and the media. Similarly, if China had good PR skills, a majority of people in Taiwan would want to unite with China.

This is the beauty of soft power.

The smart thing for China would be to modify its “Made in China 2025” strategy to include the urgent development of soft power and positive image.

Chinese state media like CGTN, Xinhua News, China Daily and Global Times have gotten better in the last two years. They are hiring talented TV journalists, making lots of short and informative videos, being active on Twitter etc. Female TV anchor Liu Xin brings intellect, fact-based journalism, and social media savviness; and JingJing Li‘s bubbly personality and smartness appeal to younger audience. However, China needs hundred more such influencers.

Chinese media are also starting to leverage new foreign voices such as Daniel Dumbrill, Jerry-the-cyclist, and Cyrus Janssen. This is extremely important, since positive opinions from non-Chinese are more impactful (just like in personal relations if you want to impress a girl, the best way is to have someone else tell her how awesome you are). Another excellent example is Kishore Mahbubani an author and diplomat from Singapore who has done more for China’s image than anyone else over the years. China should cultivate the goodwill of hundreds, if not thousands, of such people.

Chinese foreign ministry officials like Hua Chunying and ambassadors have started fighting back on Twitter in the last few months. We can see that they are being effective, since western journalists are whining about China’s new “wolf warrior diplomacy.”

In the next phase, China must develop journalists, analysts, authors, artists, photographers and moviemakers who focus on other countries and cultures as well as neutral topics that would have global appeal like BBC’s documentaries, for example.

There are 400+ billionaires and 5 million millionaires in China. They could establish a massive private fund to start journalism & film schools, establish think tanks, hire journalists, and pay bloggers and social media influencers around the world. If that sounds crazy, guess what, that’s exactly what the west does.

Chinese government and corporations should be willing to spend significant amount of efforts, money and time on the soft power campaign. Chinese netizens should also be far more active on social media. Perhaps due to political history and cultural factors, there may be resistance to embrace, learn, and invest in this extroverted art of information war. But there’s no choice it’s time for China to evolve and adapt.


It looks like Xi Jinping is starting to understand the urgency of the situation but I don't really see any change :
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The episode of Peng Shuai shows that they are still incompetent in the propaganda war and in PR
 

Overbom

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Hopefully if she reappears it is in the Coliseum in a tennis death match
You would call me a hawk but she should go to jail for causing such damage to China's image

The guy should also sue her for slander. And thus force to reveal her if she has any actual proof for her accusations

She could have gone to a court and sue the guy, but instead she decided to open her mouth to the world and cause this mess
 

tygyg1111

Captain
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US academic system considered as soft power or hard power?
Having a solid academic system with strong institutions and top talent is hard power, and was made possible because of hard power, (where would their jet propulsion science level be if they were not able to 'poach' top German talent?)
 

NiuBiDaRen

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You would call me a hawk but she should go to jail for causing such damage to China's image

The guy should also sue her for slander. And thus force to reveal her if she has any actual proof for her accusations

She could have gone to a court and sue the guy, but instead she decided to open her mouth to the world and cause this mess
Send her to the gulags in Xinjiang for 20 years lmao
 
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