manqiangrexue
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Well... I mean... we are gonna beat the shit out of them if the US uses Korea as a base of operation against China in a conflict and it does look like that is the US plan so... they're not wrong.
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escobar
Brigadier
The "common propserity" nonsense is another shit PR from CCP. Another one is : "CN is a peace loving nation" lol. They come from mindset brainwalshed by US "values" "responsible stakeholder” nonsense PR. Have you ever heard about common prosperity in a jungle? You haven't learned anything from history then, fatal naivety.
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China should just double up on its shipbuilding industry, thereby displacing korean shipbuilding. Then they can Just ban korean k-pop and TV series.
Trade and economic growth should be a "positive sum" game
That applies whether it is domestic trade/growth or foreign trade/growth
Common prosperity is not nonsense
The thing is if I interview like 70 people I'm sure I can find at least 20 people that are pro or anti China. Especially if you have some people knowledge and can read people you can switch around some questions to manipulate people into certain answers.
If you watched Asia boss the few years you can see they nudge negative China doesn't have to be a bad thing. China is far from perfect. But you can quickly go from Asia boss to the SerpentZA and that other cummilk guy by the youtube recommendation engine. Then think China is one big hell hole where the devil himself is afraid off.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
The rules of the jungle is the western led world order. When China was the supreme power in Asia, it ran things differently. Where everyone got to live as they wanted so long as they were civilised and reasonable, and China didn’t have to spend its entire life at war trying to keep everyone in line.
Chinese soft power are based on traditional Chinese values. It is not appreciated because the modern world is brainwashed to only recognised western soft power values.
For China to follow western soft power rules would be the ultimate capitulation to western branded soft power.
I still think China should not neglect soft power. Of course main focus, still the hard power and economic/scientific development and well being of China citizens. Unless China want to live in its own universe and going to isolate itself again, China needs co-operation of many countries, if you are going for all hard power, then maybe they are with you because they fear you, not because they genuinely like being with you.
IMHO, China needs to learn from how South Korea can export its k-pop culture or anime/manga culture from Japan. The one that I see there is potential and China already start to utilize to grow its soft power is from video games. China can grow soft power and earn money at the same time.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
Well, you know, some people don't have shit for brains and can actually understand that there is diplomatic talk and then there's actually the action of competition. You don't have to say you're there to win at everything just because you are; you can talk like the nice guy and say you hope everyone does well. This is not "shit PR"; this is shit understanding on your part of how the world works.
@Cyclist Indeed, this is a rare situation where I will have to agree with the wannabe drug dealer's assessment. Let me put this in a cyclist's language:
You are currently at the thought process of a long-haired hipster who adores Sheldon Brown's blog as you ride your steel single speed (perhaps a Soma or something) while high telling people to share the road and love cycling together. The real world at the international level is full of professional racers who ride SLR9s, F12, SL7, System Six, etc... on Di2/E-Tap with a technician's van following 20 feet behind them and if they get the slightest hint of chain rub, they will dismount, pick up their $12,000 bike and slam it into the concrete looking at the technician with a boy-you-fucked-up stare as he scrambles to get the spare bike off the top of the van and ready to go. There is a serious disconnect and you are at a bad disadvantage compared to them when it comes to shaping the (cycling) world.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
But you're not rebutting my points; you are just restating your personal preferences.
Even wannabe drug dealer knows that LOL
If we do, we're screwed. Right now, we're moving forward faster than the whole developed world combined based on Chinese science. This was much more true of the past, far less now.
Yeah... that's kinda how the world works. They fear you, then they convince themselves they like you to make themselves feel less like a bitch. Nobody rules through love, only through power and fear. It's the real world.
Completely different circumstances. They are allowed to export these things (and these are not good things I would want my kids to like even if they were Chinese) because Japan/Korea themselves are non-threatening. If China tried, just hearing the China part of it turns Westerners off because they associate the word with fear and competition rather than comfort. When Americans hear the word, "Japanese," they are so comfortable; it's like, "My little doggie is here!" LOL When they hear "China," they feel a chill down their spines like they just glimpsed the shadow of the reaper's sleeves outside their window on a dark stormy night.
I don't know about video games; I know they fuck up kids' lives and I'm not letting my kid become an addict. Video games are not China's cultural highlight; food is. But it's not like Japanese anime or K-pop even though Chinese food makes much more money and has a far wider appeal. Why? Because China's powerful and it scares people so they eat the food but block the cultural aspect. This is what happens when you try to use cultural influence or soft power in a hostile country. This is why it's a fool's errand.
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Many people in the 90's who emigrated to the US also didn't like the US as a country, they were drawn to and admired the areas that the US was powerful in, e.g. the US academic system. In fact this is still happening