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AssassinsMace
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Soft power is a concoction of the West. Like political correctness is a concoction of something that already existed only more specific. The right-wing of the US always practiced "political correctness" but the name only came about because now the people they tried to enforce their political correctness on everyone else are now doing it to them. You can't say anything bad about the US or you'll be vilified. Those who are against critical race theory don't want the truth to be told about historic US human rights crimes because it'll turn American children to be less patriotic. That's political correctness. Soft power is something that already existed and they gave it a name to be more specific and in this case they spin it to be something China doesn't have that China needs. Why do they care to tell? Is this like how they claim they want to help China to be innovated by claiming more political freedom makes countries innovated? Well China is exploding with innovation now without political freedom. If they were helping China to achieve innovation why are they in fear of Chinese innovation now? Because it was never about being innovative. It was a trick to get China to be more open politically so the West could influence Chinese society by using innovation which is something China wants i.e. allowing Facebook to do to China that they don't want happening in the US now. What is the soft power they claim China needs? It's the lie that needing to be liked is most important. The real power gained is for those you have to beg to for them to like you. They use yoga as an example of how India has soft power that China doesn't have. How is yoga soft power? Because Westerners like it...? What does that do for India? Maybe Westerners will not hate them as much meaning Westerners hate first and you have to suck up to them and serve them to chip away that hate? I thought Westerners love everyone first? There goes that believe that people are innocent until proven guilty which they use to lie to the world how they care about human rights. Does India feel secure in the world because Westerners like yoga? India has to lobby hard to get Western companies to be in India. Shouldn't it come without any effort as a reward for bringing yoga? They try to trick you into thinking it's power that you need to have. No, it's primary purpose is to make you think begging to the West, because it is only about Westerners liking you not anyone else, is power. Yoga...? How about Chinese food? It's the second most popular foreign food in the US behind Italian? How about gun powder? How about printing? Without printing most Westerners today would be illiterate because books were something only rich people had. See. Westerners liking you is fleeting because did they ever like Chinese? But then that's how it's designed because you have to keep going back to them and beg for them to like you because they made you think that's power. Do Indians feel like they're equal to the West? If they think the West has their back, why don't they go to war with China because everyone knows that what Westerners want because they don't want to have suffer the consequences? Form that perspective the soft power they peddle is worthless because the West can't get India to do their dirty work and India is seen as worthless cannon fodder despite yoga.
China has plenty of soft power. It's just not the one that Westerners like to advertise. China is the second most powerful country in the world and has No. 1, the US, worried over their position and it was done without being liked. Did China go to war to get there? No. You'd figure that would be a plus in their version of soft power yet they hate China because it didn't come about with their permission. Yes using yoga is so absurd as an example of soft power but that's was what sources like the NY Times used when they first started spouting out how China needs soft power and how China could get it. And it's not just Westerners but some non-Westerners use it, like what see happen in this forum, to somehow try to manipulate China into believing China has to work at getting them to like China. And those countries aren't the second most powerful country in the world for a reason. Get a hint. The people who believe in the West's soft power that they claim China needs are a special kind of dumb.
China has plenty of soft power. It's just not the one that Westerners like to advertise. China is the second most powerful country in the world and has No. 1, the US, worried over their position and it was done without being liked. Did China go to war to get there? No. You'd figure that would be a plus in their version of soft power yet they hate China because it didn't come about with their permission. Yes using yoga is so absurd as an example of soft power but that's was what sources like the NY Times used when they first started spouting out how China needs soft power and how China could get it. And it's not just Westerners but some non-Westerners use it, like what see happen in this forum, to somehow try to manipulate China into believing China has to work at getting them to like China. And those countries aren't the second most powerful country in the world for a reason. Get a hint. The people who believe in the West's soft power that they claim China needs are a special kind of dumb.
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man this thread really is stuck in the whole Soft vs Hard shenanigans
True that, well while the world is busy worrying about Russia and China, I am quite interested about something like this,
And the implications this has for the USA given that many companies have moved their to get away from New York and LA, along with how the USA intends for Texas to be the place where they wanted their advanced chips to be made, at least until Taiwan and South Korea bailed due to the sheer expenses required for practically no profit. Also to note is that Texas has a separate grid from the rest of the states, this has to be more serious if a issue for the government in the USA to worry about in regards to supply chain, yet it seems they still haven’t prepared anyway near enough. For get soft vs hard power, how about staying power, new vs old infrastructure and which nation has planned for the future decade and which one isnt
manqiangrexue
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What about it? It's wrong and worthless, that's what. And just because you're running away from me doesn't mean I'll leave your incoherent statements alone. China has a single party and is unified in its support while the US is always 50/50. China and the US don't use soft/limp/flaccid power because both are powerful hard countries. The type of power is employed by the type of country.
No, that's using hard economic power. And all of these influencers becoming positive on China is due to China's rapid rise in prosperity and success. Hard power brings about this kind of follower-produced soft power; the government itself does not chase it expressly but gets it as a secondary effect to increased hard power. By making China strong, Chinese people and other people in the know will naturally come speak out for you; they have no ammunition to do so when China was weak. Just focus on hard power and that type of soft power will come.
Disliked by whom? Right now, China is disliked by Western countries that dislike China because it is a challenger to Western dominance. That's the reason, not because China does bad things or can't explain itself. As long as this reason is there, these people will accept nothing that disrupts their hatred for China simply because it is natural for them to hate a rival. That's why every tiny effort by the US to slander China seems so successful and spreads in the West like wildfire; it's the excuse that people need for they hatred they have anyway. No matter what China says or how skilled it is at PR, these people will not like China because China's rise goes against their interests. It's not about skill; it's the ease of the situation. Trying to get natural rivals to like you is a fool's errand. China will be the villain of the West regardless of its PR capabilities because it is the main challenger and it will be known as a kind philanthropist when it has defeated the United States and it is convenient for these former US lackies to need a reason to move on to a new master.
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escobar
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No, it is you and your educator who fail to understand. The perception war has nothing to do with internalized obedience of hard power
escobar
Brigadier
The perception war is not about to be liked or try to make other people becoming like you
escobar
Brigadier
There is naturally a kind of soft power which comes with economic power. Even with an incompetent PR you still have it. That is what CN used to influence politicians and universities up to the UN and WHO.
I guess we need to agree to disagree on this matter. If you think China is already doing enough then fine. As for me, I think China still needs much more improvement. IMHO, Public Relations matters and China knows that image matter in the world that's why China let reporters from CCTV/CGTN to create youtube or twitter accounts to promote China's voices. Or create rule to curb bad behaviors from China tourists when overseas and they will be punished ( ). Even when China was poor, it helped develop train in Africa ( ). I don't think it was about hard economic power, but soft power.
Another example, just because of bad rumours/news, etc, South Koreans from positive views toward China now become negative. As for people in Japan, Vietnam, India or Taiwan province, I think we already know how they view China.
Maybe I am naive but I think rivalry does not mean to hate each other, not sure if I can take example rivalry in sports where you don't need to hate each other but to compete healthily.
Asian boss? Seriously? That piece of white worshipping garbage that's on par with the falun dafa youtube channels like the Behind the Great Wall?
Yeah sure, why don't i just cite tim pool as well for factual Chinese news. Hell, the fact that you honestly thought Asian Boss would be a reliable source proves your implicit white anglo supremacist biases/white worshipping biases.
Yeah sure, why don't i just cite tim pool as well for factual Chinese news. Hell, the fact that you honestly thought Asian Boss would be a reliable source proves your implicit white anglo supremacist biases/white worshipping biases.