Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is Missing

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A New Zealand man working on an oil rig claimed he saw the plane "burning at high altitude."

Here's a map comparing the two points, about 240 miles apart. Since the worker said he said the plane while it was still high above the water, it's believable that the two points are reconcilable.




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AssassinsMace said:

I already knew this by logic but Bob Baer, a staunch anti-China hand and former CIA agent, says he's not surprised by the time lag of the Chinese releasing these satellite images. He's say these kind of images are first stored on a hard drive before someone even looks at it and then it could take days even weeks to examine images and make a determined conclusion.

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Like I said It's a process, Movies and TV like to make it quick that satellites give instant real time eye of God Omnipotence. It's Total BULL!
It takes time. People have to be exacting remember nothing man made on earth is actually clearly visible on earth. Even the Great Wall.
The Satellite has to take the photos, has to send those photos back to earth, For the US a easy task for China it likely has a delay until it gets over a Chinese Receiver.
The photos have to be looked over by people with experience looking at such. these people are a relative small number and compartmentalized. They may have a back load of days to weeks of photos to go over as well.
These people are basically looking for a needle in a hay stack. confirmed by other of the same skill set looking at the photos. the fact it was spotted this quick is a Miracle. but then the processes would have to continue. the Photos released are likely lower grade then the originals, that's standard for east and west.
the next step is getting some one to the site and confirming what this is. is it the plane or is it some third world refugee boat that sank or a clump of garbage. if it's the plane then recovery can start.

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Blackstone said:

Pray tell what 70'x70' section of the Boeing 777 fuselage would float in water?

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a lot actually, Seats, the evacuation slides Tires parts of the Fuselage, and wings depending on how intact.
Remember US Airways Flight 1549 it floated on the Hudson for some time but that was a intact air frame.

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Malaysian officials have all been fishy. Has anyone noticed that director of Malaysian aviation had disappeared after commenting that one of the fake passport holders was a Balotelli look alike? Never forget how he generated a joke out of that situation during the press, what a bloody fool he was.

Malaysia also said RMAF detected the plane at Malacca Straits and one of its minister can even tweeted the plane entered some "Bermuda Triangle". All sort of nonsense but never concentrate and focus on linking up the information to aid in the SAR. How could they even allow a witch to perform in the airport to find the missing plane???

This tragedy has shown nothing but complete and utter incompetence and irresponsibility from the Malaysian government given it's one of their planes from its state-owned airline that went missing out of thin air.

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AssassinsMace said:

There are three objects reported to have been seen. How do you know if it's just not pieces on top of one another?

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The Chinese government said there are three separate pieces, the largest being 79'x72'.

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that could be a section of just about anything. 79'x72' is about the size of a blanket.

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Blackstone said:

The Chinese government said there are three separate pieces, the largest being 79'x72'.

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That's what was reported by the media. Experts have said satellite images can trick you. You don't know if they're three whole pieces. I'm watching CNN where I saw the Bob Baer interview I mentioned earlier. Guess what? CNN is still talking about why China took so long to release the images despite what Bob Baer explained.

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AssassinsMace said:

That's what was reported by the media. Experts have said satellite images can trick you. You don't know if they're three whole pieces. I'm watching CNN where I saw the Bob Baer interview I mentioned earlier. Guess what? CNN is still talking about why China took so long to release the images despite what Bob Baer explained.

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I don't know who Mr. Baer is but I'm certain CNN pundits and journalists are idiots and has not the slightest of clue how sat recon and imagery works. Yes the actual photo may have been taken 3 days ago however it need humans to look and scan them before making any sort of educated guess can be assumed. There are hundreds of thousands of photos being taken and when you're shooting blind like that you have to look at the images one section of a time not too different than the search grid.

It's not like there is some sort of AI embedded within the satelite that says oh lookey here!!!.. that picture I just took kinda sorta looks like debris from a trip 7 let's go tell our human masters STAT!!!! People watch waaay too many Hollywood movies.
NO, trained humans has to meticulously look at thousands of images first, sort them and then if come across something odd then make an educated guess after cross referencing with other data and only then finally releases it for public consumption!


If there is one group of folks that is even more ignorant than the internet armchair admirals are the reporters and journalists

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TerraN_EmpirE said:

You thinking the "Alive" scenario Air? The aircraft lost altitude and flew smack into a rock face like the Chilean soccer team of legend.

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I was thinking being in mountains could be a place where you can hide from the rest of the world for a bit of time.

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kwaigonegin said:

I don't know who Mr. Baer is but I'm certain CNN pundits and journalists are idiots and has not the slightest of clue how sat recon and imagery works. Yes the actual photo may have been taken 3 days ago however it need humans to look and scan them before making any sort of educated guess can be assumed. There are hundreds of thousands of photos being taken and when you're shooting blind like that you have to look at the images one section of a time not too different than the search grid.

It's not like there is some sort of AI embedded within the satelite that says oh lookey here!!!.. that picture I just took kinda sorta looks like debris from a trip 7!!! People watch waaay too much Hollywood movies.
NO a trained human has to see them first than make an educated guess after cross referencing with other data and only then finally releases it for public consumption!

If there is one group of folks that is even more incompetent are the reporters and journalists!

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I don't know high up Bob Baer was in the CIA but he writes books about intelligence agencies. That's why he's CNN's go to guy for any story about spying.