Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is Missing

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chuck731

Banned Idiot
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing

AssassinsMace said:
I'm watching the discussion on TV about the Chinese possibly discovering the wreckage with their satellites. You're already seeing it being more about the missing plane. Talk about how come the Chinese took so long to release this information. I'll predict this that if turns out to be the wreckage of the missing 777, this will be the topic buzzing soon... Chinese satellites being able to find parts of a jetliner... how about an aircraft carrier?
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Don't get excited. You realize satellites had the ability to photograph a region and pick out targets the size of carriers, or for that matter the size of a Boeing 777 from the first day the world's very first photo reconn satellite entered orbit in 1959, right?

The tricks are:

1. Find it in real time.

2. Get the image back in real time.

3. Do more than just find and identify the carrier, but image it in sufficient detail to reveal the carrier's capabilities, equipments, and perhaps even current activites and state of readiness that can not easily be determined in other ways.

While the Chinese probably has some of those more tircky capabilities, these capabilities are really not demonstrated by blanketing the SCS to find the presumably more or less static wreckage of a airliner.
 
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AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing

chuck731 said:
Don't get excited. You realize satellites had the ability to photograph a region and pick out targets the size of carriers, or for that matter the size of a Boeing 777 from the first day the world's very first photo reconn satellite entered orbit in 1959, right?

The tricks are:

1. Find it in real time.

2. Get the image back in real time.

3. Do more than just find and identify the carrier, but image it in sufficient detail to reveal the carrier's capabilities, equipments, and perhaps even current activites and state of readiness that can not easily be determined in other ways.

While the Chinese probably has some of those more tircky capabilities, these capabilities are really not demonstrated by blanketing the SCS to find the presumably more or less static wreckage of a airliner.
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You assume too much as usual. Also your idea these parts discovered are not the right size... That's if you believe they would maintain their same shape after a crash.
 
Blackstone

Blackstone

Brigadier
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing

AssassinsMace said:
I'm watching the discussion on TV about the Chinese possibly discovering the wreckage with their satellites. You're already seeing it being more about the missing plane. Talk about how come the Chinese took so long to release this information. I'll predict this that if turns out to be the wreckage of the missing 777, this will be the topic buzzing soon... Chinese satellites being able to find parts of a jetliner... how about an aircraft carrier?
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It's definitely legit to ask why it took three days for the satellite pictures to emerge. The answer may be perfectly reasonable, but the question must be asked.
 
AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing

Blackstone said:
It's definitely legit to ask why it took three days for the satellite pictures to emerge. The answer may be perfectly reasonable, but the question must be asked.
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As pessimistic as usual. Like they would know immediately? The date is a time stamp of the image when taken. I saw a US commercial satellite company asking online users to look at the images they've taken. Why ask since according to your logic they would know immediately? Why waste time asking online netizens to look for them when they would know immediately just like you think of the Chinese?
 
TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing

The Orbit of the Satillite and tasking, how often it goes over that area. that can take days
Type of Satellite, If it's transmitting or launching a Film canister ( some still do that).
analysis of the photos, looking them over to find the target. that could take days to weeks depending on target.
Filtering of the photos and there approval for release. The PLA who if these are Chinese Goverment photos would want to lower the resolution for counter intelligence
 
TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing

And Mace moves to the head of the Class in "Blobology" looks to me more like a cluster of material, possibly wreckage but I can't see any way at the resolution shown how any real structure could be ID'ed. someone has to go there to find out what we are looking at.
 
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chuck731

Banned Idiot
Re: Malaysia Airlines Plane is Missing

Blackstone said:
It's definitely legit to ask why it took three days for the satellite pictures to emerge. The answer may be perfectly reasonable, but the question must be asked.
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Poeple seem to assume a certain degree of omniscience in those all seeing eyes of sauron in orbit. In fact satellites will only do marginally better than intensive aircraft searches when the satellite operator, like the aircraft operator, has no idea where to look.

Since the crash area is unknown it is to be presumed the satellite search would cover a large area.

If the seach area is a rectangle is bounded by Kuala Lumpur in the south west and Ho Chi Minh city in the North East, it would be roughly 1 million square kilometers of mostly sea. If each image from the chinese satellite is 1,000 X 1,000 pixles with each pixels having a resolution of 5 meters, roughly the scale of typical debris from a airliner crash, then the operator would need to examine 40,000 images to cover this area. There are undoubted many, many other blobs, flotsoms, mats of seaweed, abandoned bouys, light glinting off the back of whales, floating containers blown off of containerships or other objects that would turn up in a satellite photo campaign of this scale. Each of them would have to be eliminated.

This probably explains why it took them a long time to fine any preliminary leads from the satellite images.
 
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