Actually, now that I think about it, the PLA has never been a guerrilla force. In fact, the PLA is created by merging the previous Eighth Route Army and New Fourth Army, which were guerrilla during the Sino-Japanese War, specifically to create a proper military meant to fight on the battlefield. The PLA won the civil war by doing just that.
Lessons for China to learn from Ukraine conflict for Taiwan scenario
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AssassinsMace
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You're forgetting Taiwanese ain't white. If the West had the money, they would've gave money to buy-off countries around the world to be anti-China instead of worrying about China investing into countries the West ignored for decades. Nothing has changed because of the Ukrainian War. The West still has no money so they can gang-up... again all they want. The result is the same where the EU needs Chinese buying their products to maintain their 1st world living standards they can't afford by their own means. Cut-off China and their situation worsens.
Wuhan outbreak relief operation was probably the most logistically complicated operation in PLA history. They were able to coordinate and mobilize personnel across the country, fly in supplies and people in a touch and go type situation.
Granted this is a peacetime operation, but still highly complex. The mere existence of Y-20 and rapid pace of construction tells you that logistics is a high priority. You can also count other utility helicopters like Z-20 and Z-18 as well.
I would agree that People’s War theory still has an influence even up until recently, but you can see it fading. Type 022 FAC was from 2000’s and Type 056 OPV from 2010’s were meant to be quantity vessels, but are being phased out for larger more capable vessels which can sail further into the open ocean (and requires the requisite logistical supply chain). The Djibouti base is the proof of this.
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True, PLA won the civil war against KMT fighting as regular army. Also the logistic problem in Korean war was due to US having air superiority and heavy bombing of PVA's supply trains and trucks, as well as bridges.
+1 for mentioning Ladakh. (vs 35k for India) and increase to 60k and then with almost no casualties.
It was so bad that You can see who had the logistical upper hand.
high frequency traders trade a zillion in a second, that certainly makes them indispensable. shit and gold are of the same color, that means gold may not be more valuable, did I get you right?
Lesson #1 the US and it's allies will not interfere militarily and will not fire a single bullet against the PLA.
Lesson #2 they will try to use sanctions to force China to stop it's military operation.
Lesson #3 we shouldn't assume the Taiwanese will just roll over and surrender once the first missile is fired.
Lesson #4 China needs to significantly increase it's nuclear capability and drop the no first use of nuclear weapons policy.
I saw some members saying that China needs to have a significant increase in military spending to gain Taiwan back, I disagree with that, the existing force the PLA has is more than enough to reunify Taiwan with the PRC, may be they just need more landing ships and transport helicopters plus drones, all of these are not exactly super expensive items that require a big boost in military spending.
In the Ukraine war, the only effective weapon the US and co. has against Russia are sanctions (the literal weapons that are being sent such as Javelins and Stingers only delay the inevitable) and that is also the case with Taiwan, you don't regain Taiwan by attempting to get near or equal (or surpass) the US military, you regain Taiwan by equalling the US technologically (semiconductors and other areas where China still lags behind the US) this way the US has less economic cards to play against China.
Patience is a virtue, China is already starting the process of regaining Taiwan by attempting to achieve self sufficiency in technology, it would be reckless to try to do it now when China's semiconductor industry is still behind the US.
Just as how the US isn't sending any aircrafts to Ukraine airspace, the same will go for Taiwan, in other words once the Taiwan war starts, the US won't be able to supply Taiwan separatists with weapons through air or sea.
Lesson #2 they will try to use sanctions to force China to stop it's military operation.
Lesson #3 we shouldn't assume the Taiwanese will just roll over and surrender once the first missile is fired.
Lesson #4 China needs to significantly increase it's nuclear capability and drop the no first use of nuclear weapons policy.
I saw some members saying that China needs to have a significant increase in military spending to gain Taiwan back, I disagree with that, the existing force the PLA has is more than enough to reunify Taiwan with the PRC, may be they just need more landing ships and transport helicopters plus drones, all of these are not exactly super expensive items that require a big boost in military spending.
In the Ukraine war, the only effective weapon the US and co. has against Russia are sanctions (the literal weapons that are being sent such as Javelins and Stingers only delay the inevitable) and that is also the case with Taiwan, you don't regain Taiwan by attempting to get near or equal (or surpass) the US military, you regain Taiwan by equalling the US technologically (semiconductors and other areas where China still lags behind the US) this way the US has less economic cards to play against China.
Patience is a virtue, China is already starting the process of regaining Taiwan by attempting to achieve self sufficiency in technology, it would be reckless to try to do it now when China's semiconductor industry is still behind the US.
Just as how the US isn't sending any aircrafts to Ukraine airspace, the same will go for Taiwan, in other words once the Taiwan war starts, the US won't be able to supply Taiwan separatists with weapons through air or sea.
@obj 705A bro welcome to SDF, finally you decided to come...lol, my point a major lesson learn from this conflict, used Force smartly like what the Russian are doing not the US shock and awed. We know PLA is a fan and a big follower of US military RMA (revolution in military affair) since Dessert Storm, destroying the enemy will to resist by mass destruction is expensive, destructive and counter productive and beside your opponent is your own kin as I always mentioned why destroy something you owned. Let us wait for the outcome and surely a big lesson for Beijing as they digest the reaction of the Collective West and how to respond and counter act.
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Last year, China's GDP was approximately $28 Trillion with R&D spending of 2.44%
My guestimate for 2035 is $50+ Trillion in GDP. That should be larger than the US+Europe in 2035.
I also expect Chinese R&D spending to increase in excess of 3% of GDP. That would be over $1500 Billion, which is more than the entire developed world spends on R&D today. And this would be combined with a lower cost base in China.
But even then, I would still advocate patience
The average Chinese person is still only half as wealthy as the average American, so China should still be growing relatively fast.
China could still double the size of its economy from 2035 to 2050.
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I think he was referring to this and not people clubbing each other with sticks.
Having to send armored vehicles to and from the highest region on earth seems a tad more challenging than rolling them through the plains of Ukraine.
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