Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

reservior dogs said:

Yes, I think if you remove the spectators and look at the reactions from leadership amongst nation states, China won and won big this time. Even going by how the Biden administration is reacting to this, you get a sense that behind the scenes, no one is given anybody high fives. It speaks volumes about the huge advantage in the structure of the government for the Chinese compared to the U.S. We are just bumbling along each doing his/her own thing. When you look at the comparative power calculus, this should be a big factor to consider.

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Precisely, 100%

US failed when:

1. Biden threw the US military under the bus by saying "
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   • Implication: US military does not want a confrontation or war with China over Taiwan. This should not inspire confidence about US willingness to defend Taiwan if a meaningless visit gets opposed by the "Mighty/Invincible" US military. PLA should (correctly) read this as weakness on Taiwan.
2. Biden and Xi Jinping held a telephone conference just days before Pelosi-visit. Biden likely reaffirmed No Change to Taiwan position and No Change to One China Policy to Xi Jinping, hence China's measured and commensurate reaction.
   • Implication: China realizes on the Taiwan question, US engages in showmanship, faux virtue signaling, and meaningless symbolism mainly for domestic political purposes ("Can't be seen as weak, argh!"). It has little-to-zero strategy concerning Taiwan. China just needs to give US a face-saving exit on Taiwan for domestic political purposes, maybe coordinate a false-flag operation with US in which CIA stooges instigate crazies in Taiwan "declare independence" so US can absolve responsibility to intervene.
3. NYT and US media articles on power struggle between Biden/Pelosi before the trip:
   • Implication: Weakness and no strategy on Taiwan vis-a-vis China.
4. Weak reaction from US military on China military exercises
   • Implication: US cannot deter China military exercises, China is too powerful.

Overall, this episode exposed US as a weak fraud on Taiwan. Unwilling to do things to fundamentally change the situation, only showmanship, virtue signalling, and meaningless symbolism, mainly for domestic political purposes.

Phead128 said:

Precisely, 100%

US failed when:

1. Biden threw the US military under the bus by saying "
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   ."
   • Implication: US military does not want a confrontation or war with China over Taiwan. This should not inspire confidence about US willingness to defend Taiwan if a meaningless visit gets opposed by the "Mighty/Invincible" US military. PLA should (correctly) read this as weakness on Taiwan.
2. Biden and Xi Jinping held a telephone conference just days before Pelosi-visit. Biden likely reaffirmed No Change to Taiwan position and No Change to One China Policy to Xi Jinping, hence China's measured and commensurate reaction.
   • Implication: China realizes on the Taiwan question, US engages in showmanship, faux virtue signaling, and meaningless symbolism mainly for domestic political purposes ("Can't be seen as weak, argh!"). It has little-to-zero strategy concerning Taiwan. China just needs to give US a face-saving exit on Taiwan for domestic political purposes, maybe coordinate a false-flag operation with US in which CIA stooges instigate crazies in Taiwan "declare independence" so US can absolve responsibility to intervene.
3. NYT and US media articles on power struggle between Biden/Pelosi before the trip:
   • Implication: Weakness and no strategy on Taiwan vis-a-vis China.
4. Weak reaction from US military on China military exercises
   • Implication: US cannot deter China military exercises, China is too powerful.

Overall, this episode exposed US as a weak fraud on Taiwan. Unwilling to do things to fundamentally change the situation, only showmanship, virtue signalling, and meaningless symbolism, mainly for domestic political purposes.

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Maybe Pelosi and Biden played good cop and bad cop.

TK3600 said:

Is F-35A not able to reach Taiwan from Okinawa?

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the f-22 had to carry drop tanks to fly to diaoyu islands. What do you think?

ansy1968 said:

I can't understand why they listen and employ such shady characters like Bremmer, Chang and other snake oil salesman,

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While Chang and others maybe on U.S. military payroll to make them look more legit, I don't believe for a second that the U.S. government or military are basing policy on their recommendations. In this case, even if the military were employing them, they understand this payment is used purely for political propaganda and should expect zero value in what these clowns say. At least I hope that is the case. Even with that said, I believe the people truly trusted to provide advice for China policy are seriously out of their depth and the transparency is mainly one way.

Phead128 said:

Precisely, 100%

US failed when:

1. Biden threw the US military under the bus by saying "
   Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
   ."
   • Implication: US military does not want a confrontation or war with China over Taiwan. This should not inspire confidence about US willingness to defend Taiwan if a meaningless visit gets opposed by the "Mighty/Invincible" US military. PLA should (correctly) read this as weakness on Taiwan.
2. Biden and Xi Jinping held a telephone conference just days before Pelosi-visit. Biden likely reaffirmed No Change to Taiwan position and No Change to One China Policy to Xi Jinping, hence China's measured and commensurate reaction.
   • Implication: China realizes on the Taiwan question, US engages in showmanship, faux virtue signaling, and meaningless symbolism mainly for domestic political purposes ("Can't be seen as weak, argh!"). It has little-to-zero strategy concerning Taiwan. China just needs to give US a face-saving exit on Taiwan for domestic political purposes, maybe coordinate a false-flag operation with US in which CIA stooges instigate crazies in Taiwan "declare independence" so US can absolve responsibility to intervene.
3. NYT and US media articles on power struggle between Biden/Pelosi before the trip:
   • Implication: Weakness and no strategy on Taiwan vis-a-vis China.
4. Weak reaction from US military on China military exercises
   • Implication: US cannot deter China military exercises, China is too powerful.

Overall, this episode exposed US as a weak fraud on Taiwan. Unwilling to do things to fundamentally change the situation, only showmanship, virtue signalling, and meaningless symbolism, mainly for domestic political purposes.

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Bro its funny the reverse had happen instead of China wanting to maintain the Status Quo, after the visit it was the US who want it. I think the Chinese are preparing for War, the trust had been broken and seeing what the Russian had achieve it had embolden the Chinese. The first step aside from military preparation is full decouple, with withdrawal of Chinese investment in the Collective West, with it restricting new investment. CATL new US battery factory will be shelved, it's a natural thing to do, you don't need Tesla, you have the tech they come to you. Look at TSMC they have invested heavily on a US FAB on a promise that Intel and other US firms will buy from them, now they kept her hanging with non committal stating the incoming recession.

People may say IF the Chinese don't invest others will then let them do it, the trade barriers will be place on all Chinese goods eventually and the American consumer will bear the brunt. And US made EV vehicle will be costly to owned as Tesla counterpart in China are more cheaper, It's like the story of a Frog in the well is gaining traction among the US political elites....lol

PopularScience said:

Maybe Pelosi and Biden played good cop and bad cop.

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Even worse... US trying to placate China by "Good cop/bad cop" routine. It certainly doesn't inspire confidence of US willingness to defend Taiwan militarily when it's trying to placate China while the balance of power across the straits increasingly in China's favor.

You know what US did in 1996 right? It was all 100% "Bad cop". What a difference 20 years makes.

Please do not compare Bremmer to Chang. Chang is a loser who still somehow gets airtime for his repeated bad takes that China will collapse.

Anyhow, I predict that with the Trump/FBI situation, the US media is going to completely shift away from Taiwan by tomorrow. It's probably a good thing that the Western world gets to see the Trump drama rather than listening to Taiwanese FM about how China is bullying them.

tphuang said:

Please do not compare Bremmer to Chang. Chang is a loser who still somehow gets airtime for his repeated bad takes that China will collapse.

Anyhow, I predict that with the Trump/FBI situation, the US media is going to completely shift away from Taiwan by tomorrow. It's probably a good thing that the Western world gets to see the Trump drama rather than listening to Taiwanese FM about how China is bullying them.

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@tphuang Sir the China drama didn't sell well while Trump is a sure blockbuster. Regarding Bremmer, they both came from the same bird feathers with White being more prettier than Yellow.

NeutralWarrior said:

BREAKING: Taiwan's Minister Joseph Wu "doing a Zelensky" tomorrow at 11am:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1556587522696032256

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Oh Lord....Minister Joseph Wu "really did a Zelensky" as expected, replacing Zelensky's Khaki Green T-Shirt with his Khaki Green Tie & Mask. My coffee almost sprayed through my nose...!


Zelensky style speech + :

1. China has violated the median line, cause international flight and shipping disruptions to global community.

2. Mainland has threaten for many years, Taiwan violated by Mainland and claimed Mainland & Taiwan is not related.

3. Democracy vs Autocracy, democracy MUST WIN no matter what.

4. Thanking "lots of lots of countries" for supporting Taiwan at this critical juncture. Lots of countries he say??

5. Calling for more countries and democracies to come and join and support Taiwan in facing this.

6. Lots of Zelensky's style bull crap -THE END-

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Circled red: Khaki Green Mask & Tie à la Zelensky




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