Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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stannislas

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The text of the following statement was released by the G7 foreign ministers of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom, and the United States of America, and the High Representative of the European Union.


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We, the G7 Foreign Ministers of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom, the United States of America, and the High Representative of the European Union, reaffirm our shared commitment to maintaining the rules-based international order, peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait and beyond.


We are concerned by recent and announced threatening actions by the People’s Republic of China (PRC), particularly live-fire exercises and economic coercion, which risk unnecessary escalation. There is no justification to use a visit as pretext for aggressive military activity in the Taiwan Strait. It is normal and routine for legislators from our countries to travel internationally. The PRC’s escalatory response risks increasing tensions and destabilizing the region.


We call on the PRC not to unilaterally change the status quo by force in the region, and to resolve cross-Strait differences by peaceful means. There is no change in the respective one China policies, where applicable, and basic positions on Taiwan of the G7 members.


We reiterate our shared and steadfast commitment to maintaining peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait and encourage all parties to remain calm, exercise restraint, act with transparency, and maintain open lines of communication to prevent misunderstanding.


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now china fully understand know exactly what G7 will respond, call not to escalate, LMAO
i wonder what taiwan will get from US when ztz-99a land on taiwan? call to calm? XD
 

ZeEa5KPul

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While it's true that China is going to be stronger in the future compared to now. That also assumes America will continue to be a stable entity. Even a country the size of North Korea can become a solid obstacle if they are prepared to be crazy enough. What happens if a far right entity takes power in America?
I don't think you appreciate the scale here. It's not that China is going to be stronger or even much stronger than America in the future, it's that China is going to be able to crush US Pacific forces like insects. It doesn't matter what entity takes power in the US, whether it's Bozo the clown or the archangel Michael. China crushes them no matter what.

When you can stack the deck in your favour to that degree, starting a war prematurely when you have any other choice is the height of folly.
 

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The Japanese Ministry of Defense tracked the launches of 9 PLA missiles during an August 4 exercise, five of which fell into Japan's claimed exclusive economic zone.

Launch checkpoints (according to the Ministry of Defense of Japan):
1 launch at 09.56 (Moscow time), rocket launch from the coast of Fujian Province, firing range was 350 km;
2 launch at 09.56 (Moscow time), rocket launch from the interior of China, firing range was 700 km;
3 launch at 10.14 (Moscow time), rocket launch from the interior of China, firing range was about 550 km;
4 launch at 10.57 (Moscow time), rocket launch from the coast of Zhejiang Province, firing range was about 350 km;
5 launch at 10.57 (Moscow time), rocket launch from the coast of Zhejiang Province, firing range was about 650 km;
6 launch at 11.05 (Moscow time), rocket launch from the coast of Fujian Province, firing range was about 500 km;
7 launch at 11.05 (Moscow time), rocket launch from the coast of Fujian Province, firing range was about 550 km;
8 launch at 11.08 (Moscow time), rocket launch from the coast of Fujian Province, firing range was about 500 km;
9 launch at 11.08 (Moscow time), rocket launch from the coast of Fujian Province, firing range was about 550 km.

According to the Japanese Ministry of Defense:
➖ during the 1st launch, the fall of parts of the rocket was noted in the north and west of Yonaguni Island;
➖ during launches from 5 to 9, parts of the missiles fell into the waters in the southwest of Hateruma Island. At the same time, from 6 to 9, the rocket launch flew over the island of Taiwan;
➖ during the 2nd and 3rd launches, parts of the missiles fell in the area southwest of Taiwan;
➖ during the 4th launch, the head of the rocket fell in northern Taiwan.
 

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I don't think you appreciate the scale here. It's not that China is going to be stronger or even much stronger than America in the future, it's that China is going to be able to crush US Pacific forces like insects. It doesn't matter what entity takes power in the US, whether it's Bozo the clown or the archangel Michael. China crushes them no matter what.

When you can stack the deck in your favour to that degree, starting a war prematurely when you have any other choice is the height of folly.
Even if the military balance does turn out that way, what happens if America (or some fragment of it) becomes an irrational white supremacist North Korea type state with nuclear ICBMs? Russia has shown what a weakened state can do if it has a strategic arsenal.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Even if the military balance does turn out that way, what happens if America (or some fragment of it) becomes an irrational white supremacist North Korea type state with nuclear ICBMs? Russia has shown what a weakened state can do if it has a strategic arsenal.
Even better. Russia and North Korea don't have the luxury of worrying about credibility, they're concerned with survival - both use their nuclear weapons defensively. It would be very welcome if the post-WWII political orthodoxy in the US is overthrown and turns into something similar to Russia and the DPRK.

It doesn't matter if the US is taken over by white supremacists (spoiler: always has been) or continues under neocons or whatever other ideology. All these people share a very prominent common denominator - they all don't want their children immolated in a nuclear fireball. They cannot threaten nuclear use against a nuclear state like China today, let alone a future China with thousands of nuclear weapons; most certainly not over Taiwan or even any US presence west of Hawaii. At that point their own vassals would rise up against them and boot them out because they too don't want their children immolated in a nuclear fireball.
 
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