bajingan
Senior Member
I wonder how long will average americans put up with the economic damage from reckless u.s actions against China, they can barely cope with the inflation from the russian sanctions
Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis
- Thread starter sndef888
- Start date
- Status
Missed opportunity to strike the English Vegetable
Yeah the latest Topgun movie didnt even make sense the whole premise was unnecessarily worked to get the F-18 involved and they even managed to write the story in such unbelievable manner as to put Maverick back in the F-14 driver seat... almost made the movie Behind Enemy Lines from 2 decades ago seem realistic
The scene where Tom Cruise says something along the lines of yes he may be getting old but he isnt out of the game yet, really reminds me its like Uncle Sam saying to China that sure US hegemony has waned but China hasnt surpassed it yet, not today and not forseeable future, and that its still the top dog
Interesting take and summary on Pelosi's visit.
Taiwan military expert predicts PLA attack during exercise
1. PLA missile bases at N.p. Leping and Ganzhou (Jiangxi Province) are located 850 and 865 km from the No. 4 gated area on the east coast of Hualien. "Dongfeng-15" ballistic missiles with a range of up to 1000 km can be used to attack.
2. If the missile base in Danzhou (Hainan Province) located 1,450 km from Area No. 4, China can use the Dongfeng-16 ballistic missile (BR) with a range of up to 1,500 km. The expert said the PLA would not be stupid enough to use the Dongfeng-17 BR. Because? So that the Taiwanese Armed Forces do not remove telemetry from a missile flight using an early warning radar at the settlement. Leshan.
3. Enclosed area No. 4 for firing was probably chosen by China so that when the missiles were launched from the above bases, they would fly over Taipei, Taichung and Kaohsiung. The aim is to test Taiwan's air defense system, trigger a "missile strike warning" text message and "influence people's morale".
4. As for other enclosed areas located 500 km from China, they are expected to be fired from PCL191 type multi-launch rocket systems. The MLRS can be used to interfere with Taiwanese Navy patrols in the Taiwan Strait. The PLA can film MLRS launches and their fire impact on targets at sea for cognitive warfare.
Taiwan:
It is reported that the Taiwanese Armed Forces of the N. p. Pingtung deployed old 155mm howitzers and 120mm mortars to defend the island in response to PLA exercises.
More footage of the deployment of Taiwanese Armed Forces M114 155mm howitzers and 120mm mortars closer to PLA exercise areas. Well, it's nothing serious for the Taiwanese side to use these antiquities against China. This is the same thing that the Ukrainian command gave its fighters Maxim machine guns from shaggy years to fight against Russian artillery.
Taiwan deployed 10 AH-64E Apache helicopters to Hengchun Airport (Pingtung County) on August 4 due to PLA exercises.
China yesterday:
PLA Air Force J-20 and J-16 fighter jets fly over Zhejiang and Fujian provinces adjacent to the Taiwan Strait in preparation for China's People's Liberation Army exercises in the Strait. August 3, 2022.
1. PLA missile bases at N.p. Leping and Ganzhou (Jiangxi Province) are located 850 and 865 km from the No. 4 gated area on the east coast of Hualien. "Dongfeng-15" ballistic missiles with a range of up to 1000 km can be used to attack.
2. If the missile base in Danzhou (Hainan Province) located 1,450 km from Area No. 4, China can use the Dongfeng-16 ballistic missile (BR) with a range of up to 1,500 km. The expert said the PLA would not be stupid enough to use the Dongfeng-17 BR. Because? So that the Taiwanese Armed Forces do not remove telemetry from a missile flight using an early warning radar at the settlement. Leshan.
3. Enclosed area No. 4 for firing was probably chosen by China so that when the missiles were launched from the above bases, they would fly over Taipei, Taichung and Kaohsiung. The aim is to test Taiwan's air defense system, trigger a "missile strike warning" text message and "influence people's morale".
4. As for other enclosed areas located 500 km from China, they are expected to be fired from PCL191 type multi-launch rocket systems. The MLRS can be used to interfere with Taiwanese Navy patrols in the Taiwan Strait. The PLA can film MLRS launches and their fire impact on targets at sea for cognitive warfare.
Taiwan:
It is reported that the Taiwanese Armed Forces of the N. p. Pingtung deployed old 155mm howitzers and 120mm mortars to defend the island in response to PLA exercises.
More footage of the deployment of Taiwanese Armed Forces M114 155mm howitzers and 120mm mortars closer to PLA exercise areas. Well, it's nothing serious for the Taiwanese side to use these antiquities against China. This is the same thing that the Ukrainian command gave its fighters Maxim machine guns from shaggy years to fight against Russian artillery.
Taiwan deployed 10 AH-64E Apache helicopters to Hengchun Airport (Pingtung County) on August 4 due to PLA exercises.
China yesterday:
PLA Air Force J-20 and J-16 fighter jets fly over Zhejiang and Fujian provinces adjacent to the Taiwan Strait in preparation for China's People's Liberation Army exercises in the Strait. August 3, 2022.
In4ser
Junior Member
We must make do with Vegetable-Slicing instead. Thicker cuts than Salami or Sashimi slices.
The text of the following statement was released by the G7 foreign ministers of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom, and the United States of America, and the High Representative of the European Union.
Begin Text:
We, the G7 Foreign Ministers of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom, the United States of America, and the High Representative of the European Union, reaffirm our shared commitment to maintaining the rules-based international order, peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait and beyond.
We are concerned by recent and announced threatening actions by the People’s Republic of China (PRC), particularly live-fire exercises and economic coercion, which risk unnecessary escalation. There is no justification to use a visit as pretext for aggressive military activity in the Taiwan Strait. It is normal and routine for legislators from our countries to travel internationally. The PRC’s escalatory response risks increasing tensions and destabilizing the region.
We call on the PRC not to unilaterally change the status quo by force in the region, and to resolve cross-Strait differences by peaceful means. There is no change in the respective one China policies, where applicable, and basic positions on Taiwan of the G7 members.
We reiterate our shared and steadfast commitment to maintaining peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait and encourage all parties to remain calm, exercise restraint, act with transparency, and maintain open lines of communication to prevent misunderstanding.
End Text
About the question whether to solve the Taiwan problem now vs later.
While it's true that China is going to be stronger in the future compared to now. That also assumes America will continue to be a stable entity. Even a country the size of North Korea can become a solid obstacle if they are prepared to be crazy enough. What happens if a far right entity takes power in America?
America may be prepared to accept a negotiated settlement now if it doesn't disrupt the global economy too much. In a few years Taiwan may become a hill Americans are prepared to die on.
American assets that would be helping Taiwan now are currently busy in the Ukraine, not to mention the American war on terror is still going on, they even got the number two al-qaeda guy the other day.
American intelligence is good, but it's not infinite. If both these campaigns end, is China's military growth going to offset the resources freed up?
Finally, America has given China a legitimate grounds for forced reunification. The only argument for Pelosi's actions Americans are putting forward is "Americans can go wherever they want". That may suit their domestic audience, but it won't work in any international court.
After this Americans may play it safe not to provoke China so openly.
While it's true that China is going to be stronger in the future compared to now. That also assumes America will continue to be a stable entity. Even a country the size of North Korea can become a solid obstacle if they are prepared to be crazy enough. What happens if a far right entity takes power in America?
America may be prepared to accept a negotiated settlement now if it doesn't disrupt the global economy too much. In a few years Taiwan may become a hill Americans are prepared to die on.
American assets that would be helping Taiwan now are currently busy in the Ukraine, not to mention the American war on terror is still going on, they even got the number two al-qaeda guy the other day.
American intelligence is good, but it's not infinite. If both these campaigns end, is China's military growth going to offset the resources freed up?
Finally, America has given China a legitimate grounds for forced reunification. The only argument for Pelosi's actions Americans are putting forward is "Americans can go wherever they want". That may suit their domestic audience, but it won't work in any international court.
After this Americans may play it safe not to provoke China so openly.
Last edited:
- Status