Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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OppositeDay

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Guancha just released a video on natural sand export ban to Taiwan


Basically confirms what I said earlier: China banned natural sand exports in 2006 to protect environment, Taiwanese business community begged China to make an exception for Taiwan and China did.

Some additional info:
1. Taiwan imports around 7% of the sand it uses.
2. About 8% of Taiwanese sand import is natural sand.
3. Over 90% of Taiwan's imported natural sand comes from mainland.
4. Majority of mainland's sand export to Taiwan is artificial sand.
 

meldrion

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I just got a crazy idea... what if Beijing bribed the Taiwanese people to vote for unification? Let's say it will offer 1.5 million NTD for every person conditional on the unification actually happening, which works out to be around 7.5 trillion RMB. I mean, it's damn expensive, but surely that will sway enough people (most don't care)! 7.5 trillion RMB might seem like a lot, but it is only a small percentage of Chinese annual GDP, and probably far cheaper than the cost of military action...
How about whoever votes in favor of unification gets to enter a lottery for 1 billion RMB. Could sway a surprising amount of people, just saying.
 

jwnz

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I just got a crazy idea... what if Beijing bribed the Taiwanese people to vote for unification? Let's say it will offer 1.5 million NTD for every person conditional on the unification actually happening, which works out to be around 7.5 trillion RMB. I mean, it's damn expensive, but surely that will sway enough people (most don't care)! 7.5 trillion RMB might seem like a lot, but it is only a small percentage of Chinese annual GDP, and probably far cheaper than the cost of military action...
You're from Taiwan right? Vested interest, so nope :p Nice try though ;)
 

zgx09t

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I just got a crazy idea... what if Beijing bribed the Taiwanese people to vote for unification? Let's say it will offer 1.5 million NTD for every person conditional on the unification actually happening, which works out to be around 7.5 trillion RMB. I mean, it's damn expensive, but surely that will sway enough people (most don't care)! 7.5 trillion RMB might seem like a lot, but it is only a small percentage of Chinese annual GDP, and probably far cheaper than the cost of military action...
Spread out over 20 years is doable, but there'd be nasty riots from mainland seniors, at least, for such a dole out.
 

5unrise

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How about whoever votes in favor of unification gets to enter a lottery for 1 billion RMB. Could sway a surprisingly amount of people, just saying.
I don't think that works nearly as well. Most people would prefer the certainty of a large sum of money than the small chance of winning a gigantic amount. In economics and finance, we call that preference the risk premium.
 

sinophilia

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I just got a crazy idea... what if Beijing bribed the Taiwanese people to vote for unification? Let's say it will offer 1.5 million NTD for every person conditional on the unification actually happening, which works out to be around 7.5 trillion RMB. I mean, it's damn expensive, but surely that will sway enough people (most don't care)! 7.5 trillion RMB might seem like a lot, but it is only a small percentage of Chinese annual GDP, and probably far cheaper than the cost of military action...

Not sure about Taiwan but should work for Mongolia, their population is tiny and they are fairly poor. Offer each household $100,000 one time payment to agree to annexation. Number of households is ~1 million, one time cost of $100 billion (Chinese GDP is now >$20 trillion and Chinese net national worth is >$100 trillion). Will pay itself back very quickly anyway.
 

ironborn

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I just got a crazy idea... what if Beijing bribed the Taiwanese people to vote for unification? Let's say it will offer 1.5 million NTD for every person conditional on the unification actually happening, which works out to be around 7.5 trillion RMB. I mean, it's damn expensive, but surely that will sway enough people (most don't care)! 7.5 trillion RMB might seem like a lot, but it is only a small percentage of Chinese annual GDP, and probably far cheaper than the cost of military action...
Money better spend would be just bribe the ROC army to have a coup, and get it over with damn quick. Given bunch of old ROC retired generals are openly calling for reunification.
 
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