Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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HereToSeePics

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Everyday government operations are far more expansive than a single CIA enemy government "presto chango" group lol.

A slight off-topic detour, but I've been meaning to ask - is there a meaningful amount of people in the intelligence and defense industry that read SDF? Asking for a friend.... ;)
 
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ZeEa5KPul

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Hard to defend someone who is as corrupt and domestically hated as Pelosi.
I think it's more because they're attuned to the administration as a whole and not Pelosi, and it's clear that Biden and the bureaucracy didn't want this visit to happen (for the reasons we're seeing now). Western media are incredibly well-regimented state propaganda and they push their masters' messages effortlessly. Contrast that with China's pitiable "state" media that is so far removed from centers of power that they don't even know when to threaten, much less what to threaten.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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A friend of mine mentioned to me that Kinmen has launched some flares, or that there have been flares launched over Kinmen. Perhaps UAS? But my guess is as good as any. If this has already been posted about, my apologies. If not, perhaps it'd be a decent place to search through unsecured security camera feeds, livestreams, etc. to see what's up.
Yes, there is a Chinese UAV that (allegedly) overflew Kinmen Island some hours ago.

Flares were launched in response to that, just like last time on another ROC-ruled island.
 

MortyandRick

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For UK and certain EU countries, NATO article 5 would apply right?
Then they have to get permission from the US who will be fight that war for them. So again it’s US vs China. NATO has little assets on that region. They will be bogged down with land based weapons funding to defend against Russia for a while. Also I remember someone mentioning that article 5 is non binding if the member country initiated the conflict, but don’t quote me on that.
 

meldrion

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Why only punish Taiwan for a belligerent action by the US?
Why not punish the US in the one thing that draws them into the One China policy to start with?
That’s the strategy. The objective is to make progress toward reunification not to punish Taiwan or the US. In fact it would be foolish to directly engage the US. Nobody is ready for a clash between nuclear powers, not China, not the US.

Keep allowing those diplomats to land = tacitly enforcing the opinion that Taiwan is a sovereign state.
If there is no action from China. But after the Pelosi visit China will probably has significantly more military presence around Taiwan following the exercise, and it could become a routine. And the western media is surprisingly silent about it. Because of all the warnings China issued before the visit, any action afterwards is actually “preannounced and justified”. China is now able to advance militarily without many push back (and some support even) from the rest of the world. So try fighting the warships and missiles with the “reinforced opinions”.

As many have mentioned, it is likely that the self-titled “Rest of the World” will soon start taking turns to poke the Dragon by sending their own diplomats to visit Taiwan. Repeat the Pelosi scenario again ad infinitum.
I secretly think that it is a good thing that those politicians come and we should probably encourage them a little bit. It’s a win-win situation. The politicians get their street cred, and China gets to act “provoked” and slice another piece of salami. More important the politician, bigger the slice. And I figure there is only around 2-3 pelosi-sized slices left.
 

5unrise

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I just got a crazy idea... what if Beijing bribed the Taiwanese people to vote for unification? Let's say it will offer 1.5 million NTD for every person conditional on the unification actually happening, which works out to be around 7.5 trillion RMB. I mean, it's damn expensive, but surely that will sway enough people (most don't care)! 7.5 trillion RMB might seem like a lot, but it is only a small percentage of Chinese annual GDP, and probably far cheaper than the cost of military action...
 
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