Oh, I've caught it from the beginning. What I find surprising is that talking heads are tethered enough to reality to see it - that I admit I did not foresee.
Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis
- Thread starter sndef888
- Start date
- Status
China should sanction her and her investment funds once things die down a little bit. Hit her hard where it hurts most, her corrupt money. No way in 300 years, her years in public office wouldn't make her over 100 millions rich had she lived and worked as an honest public servant, on public office salary. Better returns than Buffet? Once sanctioned, half of Wall Street as her benefactors would ditch this old hag like a diseased rat.
I am not sure that I would share your views.
First, while the conflict is between the US and China, Taiwan sent out the invitation. If china can make the military exercises painful for Taiwan, they will think twice before sending out the invitation again. If I were a Taiwan citizen and every time a high level foreign dignitary comes by to say nice words but provides no substance, I then have to endure 4 days of decreased port supply and bombing off my coast, I’d be pretty pissed. Maybe die hard DPP supporters won’t mind but I am sure many others would. China does not want to fight the US right now but they can make it very painful for Taiwan to send the invitation. if Taiwan invites another high level dignitary again, they will like want something concrete instead of just a photo op. That means the cost of visiting Taiwan has gone higher.
Second, just because China didn’t punish the US doesn’t mean China won’t punish another country, ie Lithuania. Which other countries will follow suit? There is only one USA, which other country and match China when it comes to an armed conflict? the UK? The EU? They rely on US power projection. Will the US fight a war for them, if they provoke China? Doubtful. it remains to be seen if the UK will follow suit but I can assure you, the cost of doing so has gone up considerably for Taiwan and the UK. I don’t think China would treat the UK with the same… laxity as they do with the US. If a country like Australia tried to do it, I don’t think China would hesitate to send out fighter jets to intercept. What the Fu*k can Australia do about it? Cry top the US? That’s why I think the only country that can do this is the US. Even then they indicate that they weren’t 100% supportive of this endeavour and we’re concerned about the consequences. So let’s see which other countries have the balls to do it in the future.
Thirdly economic sanctions are a double edged sword. they always have a self harm component. That’s why china uses it so sparingly. Those are my thought only though. I’m sure others will have better reasons.
Last edited:
LIVE streams of the exercises from the Taiwanese side via YouTube:
1. Live view from Taiwan Military Heliport:
2. Live view (with commentary) from Ryukyu Islands: Update: This cam will move out to open sea from Ryukyu Island from better footage
Please have patience and enjoy
Last edited:
I see what you are saying, somewhat... in the end its a much of analytics overlays of "categorical perceptions"...
My final 2 cents on this is that this Pelosi thing isnt about Pelosi its not even about Tiawan... its not even about US vs China in terms of hegemonistic adversarial competition in the context of a zero (negative) sum game of ever shrinking pies (diminishing resources) in a global post peak energy world...
The underlining root problem underpining it all (including peak oil, diminishing EROEI, etc) is that of global overshoot... and ultimately the only solution is dieoff.... either humanity volunteers in a controlled demolition and orderly shutdown/lockdown of society (" by the end of the decade you will have nothing and be happy") or mother nature of the 2nd law of thermodynamics and mathematical concept of exponential growth against a finite environment will take care of it for us....
There may or may not be an illuminati elite or tptb at highest levels, but emergence means functionally it doesnt matter, the same way anthills dont need blueprints or autocad drawings... and power superstructures evolved to protect itself at the expense of those on the lower rungs of the stratem...
In America's case, CIA substitutes for the so called divine providence thats the invisible guiding hand that makes sure even as we collectively on global scale slide down the slope of Olduvia Gorge and regress back to a Stone Age Mad Max Easter Island style that its American power structures that sit on the top of this tropic pyramid as the plantation master harvesting the rest of the enslaved colonized world... the theme will be scale invariant canabalization, the big fish eating the small... we see Europe already being sacrificed (demand destruction) with the Ukraine pretext to prop up the USA
Personally I dont see a good outcome for humanity no matter what... what energy giveth, energy taketh away ...
When I was a bit heated before, I proposed overflights of Taipei and (on the nutty side) a demonstration nuclear blast near Taiwan. While these ideas have their merits, it's best not to play everything you have at once. Put the "capital" overflight and 650 kiloton firework in a box labelled "Good Ideas" and put it on the shelf. There's no need for them now and it's best to have them in reserve as the decade grinds on because Pelosi's provocation will certainly not be the last of its kind.
Having exclusion zones take small pieces of "territorial" waters is a good start. The next step would be taking more waters, then having them cover a bit of dry land, and so on and so forth, until we reach the box on the shelf. Damn it, I'm almost looking forward to more visits like Pelosi's!
Having exclusion zones take small pieces of "territorial" waters is a good start. The next step would be taking more waters, then having them cover a bit of dry land, and so on and so forth, until we reach the box on the shelf. Damn it, I'm almost looking forward to more visits like Pelosi's!
For UK and certain EU countries, NATO article 5 would apply right?
Hard to defend someone who is as corrupt and domestically hated as Pelosi.
- Status