CV-16 Liaoning (001 carrier) Thread II ...News, Views and operations

[bd popeye]

Is it only me who notices that the skid marks of the landing aircraft are very close together?

That would be a good thing. It means the pilots are on the mark when they land.

 

[kwaigonegin]

That would be a good thing. It means the pilots are on the mark when they land.

Also because it's new.. lol Let's revisit after she's been sailing for like 10 years
Popeye is right of course it means there is consistency and good landing skills but we are also seeing the deck from ways off so naturally you can only see the much darker spots. I'm sure if you're actually standing on the deck you'll see marks all over the place LOL.

 

[Twix101]

Given a whole fleet of combat aircraft type, only 1/3 will be immediately available for combat in normal condition ( considering that maintenance have carried out according to standard procedures, spare parts are available, enough technical crew is available, etc...). 300 aircrafts in inventory doesn't translate to 300 ready for combat. And the general rate of availability of a given type is going down when such types are deployed farther to their home base, given specific schedule to ferry, do maintenance job, and send them back to the Theater of Operation.

Such statement about aircraft 100% availability are ridiculous. And I don't see the point of getting the whole fleet together for one picture. Military have other issues to deal with, including training for real war, which is a serious matter.

 

[Iron Man]

Given a whole fleet of combat aircraft type, only 1/3 will be immediately available for combat in normal condition ( considering that maintenance have carried out according to standard procedures, spare parts are available, enough technical crew is available, etc...). 300 aircrafts in inventory doesn't translate to 300 ready for combat. And the general rate of availability of a given type is going down when such types are deployed farther to their home base, given specific schedule to ferry, do maintenance job, and send them back to the Theater of Operation.

Such statement about aircraft 100% availability are ridiculous. And I don't see the point of getting the whole fleet together for one picture. Military have other issues to deal with, including training for real war, which is a serious matter.

33% availability is an absolutely lousy number TBH. Double that number would be a more respectable availability rate for your standard legacy fighter.

 

[Blackstone]

If all 12 fighter parking spots on deck are usable at the same time, then given the training role Liaoning bears they'd have used all 12 parking spots if that many J-15s are available. Thus, unless they held back a detachment (half a squadron or even less) on land facility for training purpose (they still don't have carrier-landing capable trainer in service yet, apparently) and some more in maintenance cycle (sensible given how much flight hours those J-15s clocked by now), those 8 would be about the size they could pull together to put to sea.

Which is basically my point the Liaoning showed eight J-15s on deck because PLAN doesn't have any more to spot on the carrier, not even for glamour shots.

 

[Sczepan]

Which is basically my point the Liaoning showed eight J-15s on deck because PLAN doesn't have any more to spot on the carrier, not even for glamour shots.

they have more spots on the Deck, which could be used as "waiting spots" before take off

 

[Jeff Head]

The pictures showing eight J-15s could very easily have ten aircraft aboard.

Perhaps two are aloft while the eight sit spotted as they are.

I would expect when out to sea that a couple of aircraft would be aloft a lot of the time.

 

[Blitzo]

via dafengcao and the weibo tag in picture... J-15s conducting exercises

last picture seems to show J-15 taking off with YJ-83K pattern missile. Not new of course, but still neat.

 

[Blitzo]

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[Blitzo]

Which is basically my point the Liaoning showed eight J-15s on deck because PLAN doesn't have any more to spot on the carrier, not even for glamour shots.

That would mean the Navy only has 8 J-15s. If they really wanted to do a "glamour shot" by having as many J-15s on deck as possible, that means in such an event they would not be interested in training or practicality. After all, that is what the term "glamour shot" entails -- a photo or shot where the practicality of the subjects in question doesn't matter.

For such a "glamour shot" we would see all ~20 production batch J-15s (18-19?) that we know exist based on literally counting serial numbers one by one.

So your logic simply doesn't compute because you are implying the Navy only has 8 J-15s, and we know definitively that they have more than that. If that is not what you mean then your sentence doesn't make sense.



And this even ignores the fact that Liaoning has a hangar deck below where they can store additional aircraft where we cannot see. I have no idea in what universe you deduced that your conclusion made any sort of sense.