CV-16 Liaoning (001 carrier) Thread II ...News, Views and operations

[Quickie]

How does this in any way help your case? We are talking about which line is the "fouled deck line" for the Liaoning. You say it's the dotted line. I think it's the solid line. The spot markings for positions 9, 10, 11, and 12 are placed in such a way as to avoid going over the solid line, but do not respect the dotted line. If these positions are not meant to be used during recovery operations, there is no reason to angle them so steeply towards the bow. This is something you have avoided accounting for this whole time. BTW, if they wanted to respect the dotted line, there is actually enough room on the port side to create a dotted line of the same spacing and still spot a fighter at position 11 but orient it directly facing forward. You have also never accounted for why the dotted line veers sharply away from the angled flight deck as you move towards the bow. If that dotted line was meant for the angled flight deck it would stay parallel the whole way.

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I don't mean to intrude into the discussion but it looks to me only position 9 and 10 have markings that go over the dotted line (and stopped at the solid line) but the rest of the spotting positions can be seen to have markings that stop at the dotted line. If you look closely (click to expand), Position 9 actually has 2 painted markings with one of them stopping at the dotted line. Only Position 10 has a marking that stops at the solid line (which means that no aircraft should be in this position during aircraft recovery).

 

[Iron Man]

I don't mean to intrude into the discussion but it looks to me only position 9 and 10 have markings that go over the dotted line (and stopped at the solid line) but the rest of the spotting positions can be seen to have markings that stop at the dotted line. If you look closely (click to expand), Position 9 actually has 2 painted markings with one of them stopping at the dotted line. Only Position 10 has a marking that stops at the solid line (which means that no aircraft should be in this position during aircraft recovery).

Positions 11 and 12 also have markings that stop at the solid line. Your conclusion in parentheses is a conjecture that is not necessitated by the markings.

 

[Quickie]

Positions 11 and 12 also have markings that stop at the solid line. Your conclusion in parentheses is a conjecture that is not necessitated by the markings.

In the parenthesis, I was referring specifically to position 10, which does look to be too close for comfort for an aircraft to be spotted there during recovery of aircraft, and for that matter, positions 11 and 12 too which incidentally does not have dotted markings.

I personally think that generally it's too close for comfort for aircraft to be spotted on the solid lines, as opposed to the dotted lines, during recovery. For rookie pilots, and during training, I wouldn't be surprised if positions 9,10,11,12 or even 7 and 8 are cleared for landings. Anyway, that's just my personal opinion, others can have theirs.

 

[Iron Man]

In the parenthesis, I was referring specifically to position 10, which does look to be too close for comfort for an aircraft to be spotted there during recovery of aircraft, and for that matter, positions 11 and 12 too which incidentally does not have dotted markings.

I personally think that generally it's too close for comfort for aircraft to be spotted on the solid lines, as opposed to the dotted lines, during recovery. For rookie pilots, and during training, I wouldn't be surprised if positions 9,10,11,12 or even 7 and 8 are cleared for landings. Anyway, that's just my personal opinion, others can have theirs.

I think 10-12 will not be used during recovery for at least several years until pilots gain proficiency and not at all during training. But the fact remains that the way the spots are marked indicates they are to be used during recovery. There is no other viable reason for the solid line to exist or for the spots to marked at the angles they are.

 

[asif iqbal]

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[SteelBird]

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I saw this photo on Sina.com (but you posted first ). Seven planes on the flight desk. Some questions come to my mind (you know I'm not professional); how long is each take off point of the Liaoning? Behind the second rear take off point, there is still quite a distance (I guess it is about 30 ~ 40m), if they put another take off point there, would that help the J-15 to carry more payload?

 

[joshuatree]

Don't believe this pic has been posted here yet?

 

[Jeff Head]

Several pictures we have now of her showing eight J-15s on deck at once with a couple of helos too.

I hope to see 10 or 12 on deck together at some point. It may wellhave already happened IMHO, we just do not have pics of it.

 

[asif iqbal]

They are getting there slowly but surely !

 

[Blackstone]

Several pictures we have now of her showing eight J-15s on deck at once with a couple of helos too.

I hope to see 10 or 12 on deck together at some point. It may wellhave already happened IMHO, we just do not have pics of it.

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If they had 10 or 12 presentable J-15s, they'd probably show them, so my guess is they don't have more than 8 they could show on deck.