CV-16 Liaoning (001 carrier) Thread II ...News, Views and operations

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gelgoog

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Damage control you say. Not practiced since about WW2. You just need to look at the burn down of the Bonhomme Richard as an example of how good it is in practice today. Granted, they do have more combat experience. But I think once China gets the nuclear powered carriers they will start to flex out the fleet way more than they do today. You might see trips to Africa or the Middle East for example.
 

Temstar

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Damage control you say. Not practiced since about WW2. You just need to look at the burn down of the Bonhomme Richard as an example of how good it is in practice today. Granted, they do have more combat experience. But I think once China gets the nuclear powered carriers they will start to flex out the fleet way more than they do today. You might see trips to Africa or the Middle East for example.
I think that's not a fair statement. Bonhomme Richard was in the yard being worked on, whilst its loss does show problems with damage control not all of USN is like that. Look at the leaked video of USS Carl Vinson with the F-35C crash, the crew were very quick in getting out the fire hydrant and they swapped out the four cables and cleared the fouling on the deck quickly and manged to get a F-18 tanker into the air for refuel in no time.

For sure this is something that papers are being written about within the PLAN.
 

Richard Santos

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Damage control you say. Not practiced since about WW2. You just need to look at the burn down of the Bonhomme Richard as an example of how good it is in practice today. Granted, they do have more combat experience. But I think once China gets the nuclear powered carriers they will start to flex out the fleet way more than they do today. You might see trips to Africa or the Middle East for example.
bonhomie richard was unmanned, in the custody of the yard and opened up for refit. it’s fire is totally unrepresentative it a fully manned and alert ship in battle conditions.

As it happens, during Vietnam war US experienced several very serious incidents during combat operations that resulted in explosion of large amount of aircraft ordinance on deck and fire amongst armed and fueled aircraft preparing to sortie. this resulted in conditions similar to what would be expected if the carrier is struck in combat with peer naval power. The aftermath revealed defects in US carrier damage control that was addressed, but which another navy would never detect without setting many armed aircraft on deck on fire engage the crew in life abs death fire fighting efforts that results in scores of fatalities amongst the fire fighting and damage control personnel.
 

MwRYum

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A well used flight deck.

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Blitzo

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Given the expansion of Chinese carrier discussions in terms of the emerging maturity of CV-16 and CV-17, as well as the 003 CATOBAR carrier, and possible emergence of the nuclear carrier in the medium term future, I have locked the existing CV-16 and CV-17 threads.

All further discussion about CV-16 Liaoning and CV-17 Shandong will be consolidated here in this thread:
 
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