Crisis in the Ukraine

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solarz

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Seriously, did you watch the video yourself? What "Russian" drone? For all anyone could know the Ukies were shooting at a UFO. This is the same league as Ukraine's triumphant refrain of destroying a Russian armoured column inside Ukraine but having zilch to show.

It's like taking a pic of a Russian military exercise and then label it as Russian invasion of Ukraine.

One thing I've noticed is that the scenery for a lot of these videos is almost exactly the same: trees on one side, a field on the other, and a road running in between.
 

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Here are a couple of interesting videos

First some raw combat footage from 5th Sept between DPR and Aidar
SOME GRAPHIC CONTENT AT END

[video=youtube_share;5Fj6dRmZlB8]http://youtu.be/5Fj6dRmZlB8[/video]


Second, Nigel Farage "Telling Truth to Power" yesterday at the EU Parliament

[video=youtube_share;PjC6UhAM16Y]http://youtu.be/PjC6UhAM16Y[/video]
 

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Second, Nigel Farage "Telling Truth to Power" yesterday at the EU Parliament

[video=youtube_share;PjC6UhAM16Y]http://youtu.be/PjC6UhAM16Y[/video]
love this guy. I only lack his comments regarding Japan being provoked by sanctions to to the war against US or Poland provoking Germany by not letting it take over Danzig and the so called 'Polish corridor' before the start of WWII which guy like him would leave exactly like they did which resulted in Great Britain on the edge of being taken over by the Nazi Germany. Absolutely love this guy who don't see that countries like Great Britain who are responsible for the current Islamic extremism and letting it go inside his own country. Twisted logic. This guy is pure gold.
 

Broccoli

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Russian inferiority complex is only reason behind this Ukrainian crisis. People say that it's because NATO is so close to Russia, but in reality Russians are just angry because they cannot anymore more bully smaller countries around them and number of countries they can harass is getting smaller by the year and that's why they are so frustrated.

Things would be so much better if Russians accepted the fact that they have to act like equal partners with smaller countries around Russia instead of being he top dog all the time, i'm quite sure that's not going to happen because Russians think it's their right to give orders and all others should follow their lead... that's out of question in today's world.
 
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solarz

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Things would be so much better if Russians accepted the fact that they have to act like equal partners with smaller countries

Acting like equal partners means what... funding extremist campaigns to force regime change and throw the country into anarchy?

(And I'm not even referring to just Ukraine...)
 

Broccoli

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There are no neo nazis in Ukraine!! I had actually came across this statement in a discussion on Facebook. The poster said that are no photo evidences of such activities. I didn't bother to give him the many internet links easily found in a Google search.

Seems the west is now open to neo nazi organisations when once they were like Black Death anywhere.

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There is certainly few... here is Aleksei Jurevits Milhakov a neo-nazi from Saint Petersburg. Aleksei's past time hobbies include beheading of puppies and beating immigrants... in Ukraine his heroic deeds include beating civilians and other war crimes.

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There is certainly few... here is Aleksei Jurevits Milhakov a neo-nazi from Saint Petersburg. Aleksei's past time hobbies include beheading of puppies and beating immigrants... in Ukraine his heroic deeds include beating civilians and other war crimes.

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The only trouble is that the resemblance is only passing and that the pictures are clearly not the same guy.
The logic of trying to sell this particular message is also baffling as the thought of a truly Nazis type wanting to fight for Novorossiya, where the rest of his comrades would tear him limb from limb is risible. All the more so when the Ukraine has entire formations dedicated to people of such convictions.

Obvious really when you think about it, but indicative of the kind of logic failure that occurs when you rely on hysteria for guidance.

Anyway to finish off, a link to a long video of another Ambush of the National Guard, this time by a Rapid Reaction Group of the LPR known by the call sign "Batman"
THERE IS SOME GRAPHIC MATERIAL AT THE END
I reason for posting this, is the same as the last video: There have been countless hours of "aftermath" footage showing large amounts of burned Ukrainian armour and vehicles. There has also been countless hours of units apparently fighting but no real signs of any any actual enemy activity.
This has led to claims that the militia have actually done very little and the invisible Russian Shook Armies have done all the work out of sight.
These videos are different as they show fire fights at very close quarters and the immediate aftermath. In this one the camerman is lying in a roadside ditch as a Ukrainian tank flies up the road under fire and which is followed by an explosion and chunks of burning metal bouncing back in the direction from which they had come.
This is the militia in action and doing real damage to Ukrainian forces and doing it up close and very personal!

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Separatists would've liked an independent Scotland:
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so look what Kremlin Television has to say:

"Following the intervention of a Russia Today presenter – who said the high turnout in Scotland’s referendum was suspiciously reminiscent of North Korea (there’s a lesson to all those who have praised it as an example of political engagement) – my colleague Luke Harding reports that Russia is not going to let these doubts lie:

Russia has said the conduct of the Scottish referendum “did not meet international standards”, with its observers complaining the count took place in rooms that were too big and that the procedure was badly flawed.

In an apparent attempt to mirror persistent western criticism of Russia’s own elections, Igor Borisov – an accredited observer – said the poll failed to meet basic international norms.

Borisov said he was unimpressed by what he saw. He said the room where he watched the count on Thursday night was a cavernous “aircraft hangar” next to an airfield. It was difficult to see what was going on, he said, adding: “The hangar is approximately 100m by 300m. There are tables, with voting papers stacked upon them, but the observers are stuck around the perimeter. Even if you want to, it’s impossible to tell what’s happening. It’s also unclear where the boxes with ballot papers come from.”

Supporters of Vladimir Putin had been holding out for a yes vote, Luke explains:

The Kremlin apparently saw Scottish independence as a way of justifying its own hasty annexation of Crimea in March, following a “referendum” conducted in just three weeks and condemned by the west, as armed Russian forces and irregulars swarmed over the Crimean peninsula. Moscow also felt that a yes vote would weaken the UK and bring to power a post-independence Scottish government more amenable to Moscow’s wishes.

Alex Salmond, Scotland’s first minister, expressed qualified admiration for President Putin in an interview with GQ in March."

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but it's too much even for Propaganda-lover like me :) they're giving you North freaking Korea LOL!
 

Broccoli

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Truth is coming to the open no matter how much you lot try to deny it. Russians lost hundreds of men KIA in Ukraine and who knows how many were crippled for life.
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