Chinese Aviation Industry
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lcloo
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So HNA海航航空 is back to active business again after financial restructuring. Thisis a great news.
Urumqi Air is a subsidiary of HNA, it cancelled it's order of ARJ21 a few years ago due to financial crisis in HNA. Good to see them with C919 orders this time. C919 are better choice than ARJ-21 for domestic routes between Western China and Eastern China due to the long distance and increasing volume of tourists.
Apparently，this author doesn't know MA700 already using domestic engines.
If China Arms Russia, the U.S. Should Kill China’s Aircraft Industry
Beijing’s aerospace future is uniquely dependent on Western companies. U.S. and EU trade sanctions could bring its indigenous aviation sector to a halt.
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General
Could you please stop posting stupid articles from stupid sources that include, but are not limited to, New York Times, CNN, The Guardian, The Telegraph, The Mirror, The Daily Mail, NBC, MSNBC, Washington Post, Fox News, Foreign Policy, Topwar.ru, The Diplomat (unless it's an article written by Rick Joe), Times of India, The Hindu, The Wall Street Journal, The Australian, The Sydney Morning Herald, etc.?
And while you're at it, please also stop posting stupid videos from stupid Youtube channels such as , , , , , etc.
You may think you're contributing, but you most definitely are not. Stop trolling, you lower the IQ of this forum every time you post.
Please stop. Just stop.
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It is a mistake to ignore articles written on Foreign Policy with regards to sanctions. Since FP are mouthpieces for the deciders in the US government machine.
I have been warning of the possibility of sanctions on aviation for quite some time. Chinese aid to Russia might be used as an excuse, but sanctions on China's aircraft industry are likely to happen sooner or later regardless of any aid. The Boeing-Airbus duopoly does not want competition. What happened to Bombardier is just one example. Russia had the MC-21 hit with all sorts of sanctions as it approached entry into production. China is likely to find the same thing happening to them. The MA700 engines will just be the start of it.
Foreign Policy are mistaken with regards to the Russian engine industry. The PD-14 engine is already in serial production. The PD-8 engine development is a year ahead of schedule versus initial estimates. PD-8 is being flown on the Il-76 test platform as we speak. They plan to mate the first PD-8 engines to a Superjet late this year.
As for their claims that the Russians won't be able to ramp up engine production, one good counter example of this is helicopter engine production. Russia used to import helicopter engines from Ukraine. Since they started producing their own helicopter engines in 2017 they ramped up production to 300 engines each year. Given enough funding the engine production will ramp up. And the Russian government is considering civilian transport a major funding priority thus far sinking tens of billions of dollars into it.
As for Chinese components, the Chinese already have the WS-20 engine in production. If the WS-15 engine enters production as rumored, then its derivative engine SF-A might not be that far away either, which would substantially close the gap in terms of engine technology. SF-A, since it is based on military WS-15 engine technology, is highly unlikely to use any imported components.
China could also hit back at the West in several ways. For example they can slap export tariffs and bans to selected companies on exports of aluminium and titanium metal. China is the world's largest aluminium and titanium producer by far, dwarfing everyone else. Like some commenters in the article also said, China could extend to Boeing the ban on sales of Chinese products already slapped on Lockheed Martin.
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yes, this time the article contains a lot of wrong information, there are two cases or the author of the article "Richard Aboulafia, managing director of AeroDynamic Advisory" has not investigated thoroughly (very serious mistake for those who write on that site); or else he deliberately made it that way solely for the use and consumption of a portion of the readers he loves hear that kind of news, statements that can help the reader reinforce the belief that nothing will change and that the status quo will be maintained indefinitely. In reality, a lot is changing and imposing sanctions and embargoes even in the commercial aeronautics sector can bring problems to small non-industrialized nations, but it has already been demonstrated with regard to Iran that these measures have instead favored the birth of an aeronautical industry which today has the ability to produce almost all the spare parts that need, and, yesterday's news, also carry out the complete reverse eninereng of a CFM-56. They have imposed very heavy sanctions on the Russian aviation sector, trying to ground the entire commercial/passenger fleet, but at the moment they have not succeeded, indeed precisely the importance of air connections in a country with enormous territorial dimensions such as the Federation Russian, has given impetus and large investments to the national industry of each sector of aircraft construction (which was previously reduced, but not disappeared), it will certainly take a few years, but then they will be completely self-sufficient in the production of /passenger aircraft. Ditto if someone intends to impose sanctions on China in this sector, yes there could be problems for a few years, but then they will be solved with domestic production, even with the help of Moscow if you like. What will then be certain is that the Western aeronautical industries would also definitively lose this second and even more important market, at the same time also losing the monopoly in aeronautical construction for commercial/passenger purposes.