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tonyget

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They have imposed very heavy sanctions on the Russian aviation sector, trying to ground the entire commercial/passenger fleet, but at the moment they have not succeeded, indeed precisely the importance of air connections in a country with enormous territorial dimensions such as the Federation Russian, has given impetus and large investments to the national industry of each sector of aircraft construction (which was previously reduced, but not disappeared), it will certainly take a few years, but then they will be completely self-sufficient in the production of /passenger aircraft.
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Most of countries in the world do not allow Russian airlines to enter their territorial air at the moment，including China. Because the airbus and boeing air planes of Russian fleet can no longer get any regular maintaince or replacement parts，so it is deemed unsafe to fly by other countries.

As for Russia’s own plane MS-21，they can only fly to those countries who granted airworthiness certificate to it，at the moment I don't know any country did that（maybe Iran）.

So that means for international travels，Russia can only rely on foreign airline. The same thing could happen to China
 
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tonyget said:
Most of countries in the world do not allow Russian airlines to enter their territorial air at the moment，including China. Because the airbus and boeing air planes of Russian fleet can no longer get any regular maintaince or replacement parts，so it is deemed unsafe to fly by other countries.

As for Russia’s own plane MS-21，they can only fly to those countries who granted airworthiness certificate to it，at the moment I don't know any country did that（maybe Iran）.

So that means for international travels，Russia can only rely on foreign airline. The same thing could happen to China
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Russian airlines are still flying to China using Boeing and Airbus jets. However, you cannot find any flight information in English language websites due to US bans. I just made a search on air ticket booking for a Beijing to Moscow flight in June 2023 on Chinese website, and guesse what I found.

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sahureka

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tonyget said:
Most of countries in the world do not allow Russian airlines to enter their territorial air at the moment，including China. Because the airbus and boeing air planes of Russian fleet can no longer get any regular maintaince or replacement parts，so it is deemed unsafe to fly by other countries.

As for Russia’s own plane MS-21，they can only fly to those countries who granted airworthiness certificate to it，at the moment I don't know any country did that（maybe Iran）.

So that means for international travels，Russia can only rely on foreign airline. The same thing could happen to China
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Sure, as I wrote a few years are necessary, then everything will be clearer.
But today the aircraft of Russian companies also fly to some friendly countries. However today the numerous Il-76 commercial transport aircraft also fly abroad, as well as the few Il-96 and also the TU-214, all of these already have valid airworthiness certificates and further IL-96 will be built in a number sufficient for current intercontinental needs, and an additional 70 TU-214s will be built in conjunction with the start of production of the SSJ-News and MC-21. If then (hopefully never) the Chinese aeronautical sector will also be subjected to the same treatment, I think that at that moment the world as we know it today will no longer exist, because it will be divided in half at least economically and commercially. Therefore the air connections will be only with "friendly" countries. In that situation, even those who impose sanctions will have serious problems, at least they will have to equip themselves to produce a greater number of very long-range and very roomy A-380-style aircraft, because if it already causes the closure of air routes over Russia today, all flights of companies belonging to states that have imposed sanctions on Russia flying from Europe to South Korea-Japan and other states in the region have extended flight times by 2-3 hours, with possible sanctions on China, these flight times they could be much longer and increase the costs for the companies and consequently for the passengers / or the goods transported .
 
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tonyget said:
Most of countries in the world do not allow Russian airlines to enter their territorial air at the moment，including China. Because the airbus and boeing air planes of Russian fleet can no longer get any regular maintaince or replacement parts，so it is deemed unsafe to fly by other countries.

As for Russia’s own plane MS-21，they can only fly to those countries who granted airworthiness certificate to it，at the moment I don't know any country did that（maybe Iran）.

So that means for international travels，Russia can only rely on foreign airline. The same thing could happen to China
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China is much bigger, and China made the right call on the 737. So yes, it could happen to China, but I think that Asia, Middle East, and many other regions will be much less hesitant in complying with US international efforts to cripple China's airline industry.

Also keep in mind that when it happens will be crucial. Today? 2030? 2040? All of those dates are vastly different worlds.
 
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Rhytheon aircraft has now developed both a 4 seat electric aircraft and hydrogen powered aircraft. At least the electric aircraft already has 30 orders for tourism and private flying.

Quite interesting. I'm seriously curious who is testing out CATL's 500 wh/kg condensed battery
 
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Rhytheon aircraft has now developed both a 4 seat electric aircraft and hydrogen powered aircraft. At least the electric aircraft already has 30 orders for tourism and private flying.

Quite interesting. I'm seriously curious who is testing out CATL's 500 wh/kg condensed battery
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There are quite a few domestic candidates such as AutoFlight, Volant Aerotech, COMAC, Pantuo Aviation, Xpeng, etc.
 
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Air Central’s first ARJ21-700CCF takes flight​

China-based Air Central soon will become the second operator of the ARJ21 freighter as the carrier’s first aircraft begins test flights after conversion. The 2018-vintage ARJ21-700CCF (109, ex-Chengdu Airlines) was spotted in Guangzhou (CAN) on April 27 conducting its first test flight in Air Central livery.

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What battery powered airplane projects are there in China, at this moment? Like general aviation planes, small business "jets" etc. Due to efficienct batteries, one would think that China would be in a fairly advantageous position when it comes to such projects. Compared to, for example, the likes of Eviation Alice.
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An AG600 static test frame has successfully completed cabin pressurization test (at 150% of design pressure load).

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