China Coast Guard and Patrol vessels

Jeff Head

Jeff Head

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Blackstone said:
Except China's SLOC strategy, outside ECS and SCS, has been to work with local and regional nations on maritime security, and only using Chinese assets when local governments can't handle specific problems. Do you think China will change that policy?
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I think as China's interests grow in foreign places, that they will use their assets to secure and protect those interests. Not to intrude upon other's responsibilities, but to take up the "cause" from the territorial limit on.

The U.S. Coast Guard is doing a LOT of drug interdiction to help protect US interests...some nations work closely with them, in other places the US Coast Guard is interdicting them on the high seas. Same type of thing with piracy as well in some places. Off Somalia the international community is involved and their navies are doing the missions. In other places, the Coast Guard also fills that role.

I believe China will gravitate to doing the same things, from the South China Sea to other critical areas that impact their interests.
 
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delft

Brigadier
It might be that a long range naval vessel will be considered too intimidating and a Coast Guard vessel of the same size more fitting in certain circumstances. China often tries not to act intimidating to make the development of diplomacy easier.
 
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joshuatree

Captain
Blackstone said:
Except China's SLOC strategy, outside ECS and SCS, has been to work with local and regional nations on maritime security, and only using Chinese assets when local governments can't handle specific problems. Do you think China will change that policy?
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What about these planned larger displacement vessels also to be used to further support research stations in Antarctica? The stations on King George Island is ice free year round.
 
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PanAsian

Major
Blackstone said:
Except China's SLOC strategy, outside ECS and SCS, has been to work with local and regional nations on maritime security, and only using Chinese assets when local governments can't handle specific problems. Do you think China will change that policy?
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China is not changing that policy but rather bolstering its capabilities to continue that policy with better ships with their Coast Guard rather than their Navy.
 
Brumby

Brumby

Major
Jeff Head said:
To the contrary, the US Coast Guard has entire Coast Guard Commands that are located far away from the Continental US.

For example, Patrol Forces Southwest Asia or PATFORSWA is a United States Coast Guard command based in Manama, Bahrain.

Now this is somewhat off-fopic, but germane t the conversation because it reflects what the Chinese may ultimately do with their own Coast Guard vessels, particularly these larger ones

Even the traditional CONUS areas for the U.S. Coast Guard have received responsibilities for operating away from the Continental US. For example, the Pacific Area (PACAREA) is the Coast Guard’s regional command force that now provides maritime safety, security, and stewardship all across the Pacific...from the U.S. west coast to areas across Asia.

As a result, you regularly now see the principle large coast guard cutters, and even patrol boats, deployed to nations and areas all over the world.

U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Waesche (WMSL 751) in the Java Sea with Indonesia and U.S. Navy

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U.S. Coast Guard cutter Mellon (WHEC 717) in Malaysia:

U.S. Coast Guard cutter Monomoy (WPB 1326) in Bahrain

U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Sherman (WHEC 720) in Okinawa

U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Boutwell, (WHEC 719) off the Coast of Ecuador

U.S. Coast Guard cutter Midgett (WMEC 726) catches submersible with 13,000 lbs of Cocaine 335 miles off of Costa Rica
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Thanks Jeff. You had me convinced by your many examples.
 
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delft

Brigadier
I wonder if the 12k vessels are meant to be mother ships for flotilla's of smaller Coast Guard ships not just in SCS but perhaps for the coast of Africa. Such a ship in the main port of the Seychelles would give such smaller Coast Guard vessels the ability to operate in the Gulf of Aden. This would greatly increase China's contribution to the anti piracy mission without creating an intimidating naval presence that could be used by the propaganda machine of an other country. A mother ship for West Africa would enable anti piracy action there at a lower cost than when using naval vessels.
 
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mr.bean

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asif iqbal said:
12,000 tons that's a huge displacement and that's one huge ship
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I just looked at those pixs of the Russian navy ships that visited shanghai a week ago and realized the Slava is 12500 tons. that thing is so huge and makes the Chinese ship 151 puny when berthed side by side! and this Coast guard ship is 12000tons! holy crap I can't wait to see a pix of this giant.
 
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no_name

Colonel
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Found this chinese CG trimaran design model while searching for other pics. What would be the tonnage of the model above? 3000+, 4000 tonnes?
 
Jeff Head

Jeff Head

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no_name said:
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Found this chinese CG trimaran design model while searching for other pics. What would be the tonnage of the model above? 3000+, 4000 tonnes?
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I think smaller.

The US Independence class looks a lot larger to me and it is just under 3,000 tons.

Look at the helo pad on the model...that's a small helo on it and there's only room for one.

I'd say 1,500-2,000 tons max.
 
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