China Coast Guard and Patrol vessels

Jeff Head

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I still want to see pics of the building of the 12,000 ton cutters.

If they are not icebreakers, they are going to be the largest coast guard cutters on earth and that will be a sight to see.
 

Jeff Head

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Why would any Coast Guard need 12KT cutters? CCG wants to patrol the Caribbeans or what?
It's a fair question.

They could need them for extremely long distance patrols or assistance with China's economic needs, or for humanitarian assistance at great distance from China and for long duration, associated with China's economic needs.

The Japanese currently have the two largest Coast Guard Cutters in the world, the latest of which, PLH 32 Akitsushima, was launched in 2012 and commissioned in 2013. She displaces something over 9,300 tons full load and is almost 500 feet long.


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PLH 32 Akitsushima. Watch this in full screen resolution

She is fitted with the OPS-14 2D air search radar (Japanese version of the US AN/SPS-49), two Oerlikon 35 mm twin cannons, one M61 Vulcan cannon, and two 40mm cannons. She can carry two medium sized helos in her twin hangers and has a large, oversized landing pad aft on the vessel.

These vessels were desinged specifically to be able to transit from Japan to Europe without refueling while escorting plutonium shipments, and they are also used for anti-piracy, anti-terrorism, and other missions requiring long transit times and long duration on station.

They are really large destroyer sized vessels without all of the really heavy armament.

If China has a similar need, that's what the vessels will be used for.
 
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Jeff Head

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To show that they can. Purpose or usage is a secondary matter and I doubt it was number one concern when China decided to build them.
Sorry, Janiz, you underestimate the reasoning and the professionalism of the Chinese.

I will promise you that they have a very specific purpose in mind for these vessels...and that some kind of male apendage measuring contest is not it.

Again, you are new here. You will be best served by maintaining a level of respect, professionalism, and decorum here on SD. Humor is okay...insults are not.

Thanks.
 

vesicles

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Sorry, Janiz, you underestimate the reasoning and the professionalism of the Chinese.

I will promise you that they have a very specific purpose in mind for these vessels...and that some kind of male apendage measuring contest is not it.

Again, you are new here. You will be best served by maintaining a level of respect, professionalism, and decorum here on SD. Humor is okay...insults are not.

Thanks.

Well, we know that the Chinese have started a new space launching center on Hainan island. So something has to escort the ships transporting all the heavy launching equipment, satellites, and rockets from the mainland to the island. Plus the Hainan island is becoming the new PLAN power base with subs and Liaoning based on the island. Something has to protect the waters near the island. Would that be a good specific purpose?
 

Blitzo

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To show that they can. Purpose or usage is a secondary matter and I doubt it was number one concern when China decided to build them.

Sooo.... In your opinion, such a ship would not have any meaningful use for the PRC, and was built out of vanity rather than a defined need?
 

Blitzo

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Well, we know that the Chinese have started a new space launching center on Hainan island. So something has to escort the ships transporting all the heavy launching equipment, satellites, and rockets from the mainland to the island. Plus the Hainan island is becoming the new PLAN power base with subs and Liaoning based on the island. Something has to protect the waters near the island. Would that be a good specific purpose?

Could be, but I expect patrolling the seas around hainan could be left to regular navy, even some smaller, shorter range ships.

A "cutter" of 12,000 tons only needs to be that big for reasons of endurance (long range missions), and/or contesting waters against other navy's coast guards.
 

mr.bean

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Well, we know that the Chinese have started a new space launching center on Hainan island. So something has to escort the ships transporting all the heavy launching equipment, satellites, and rockets from the mainland to the island. Plus the Hainan island is becoming the new PLAN power base with subs and Liaoning based on the island. Something has to protect the waters near the island. Would that be a good specific purpose?

they are going to do regular runs between Tianjin and Hainan launch center because that's where the rockets are partially assembled then put onto those two Yuanwang ships to Hainan. I would think those ships would have escorts because those rockets are such important cargo but two 1000 ton coast guard ships are more than enough for the job, they don't need to use a 12000ton cutter!
 
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