Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread

B

bsdnf

Junior Member
Registered Member
AndrewS said:
To summarise:

EOTS uses mid-wave infrared which is better at low-medium altitude
IRST uses long-wave infrared which is better at high altitude

Remember that air-to-air combat will happen at high altitude

The F-35 with only EOTS is at a disadvantage to a J-20 equipped with EOTS and IRST
Click to expand...
no such thing as “J-20 equipped with EOTS and IRST”, there is no essential difference between EOTS and IRST in infrared sensoring, and only one set of long-wave EOTS/IRST on the J-20.
 
Last edited:
E

EmoBirb

New Member
Registered Member
iewgnem said:
It's fun listening to Americans trying to map next gen designs into their last gen understanding.
- Every design is for sniping tankers because they can't imagine their fighters getting shot down
- J-36 is once again for projecting power to 2IC because they can't imagine losing those islands
- J-36 being mature must mean it's not as advanced because they can't imagine US is really that far behind.
- US having nothing to show for must be because US have higher requirements because they can't imagine US can't meet Chinese requirements
- China must struggle to fund all those projects because they can't imagine America is infact a far smaller economy than China.
- GCAP is a thing because they live under the delusion that UK and Japan are solvent and remotely relevant.

Some people think J-36/J-50 is great for NGAD, I think it's actually the worst thing that could happen to it. Without J-36 they could redefine NGAD to be something more within America's limited capabilities, but with J-36, J-50 and other systems, and with American refusal to acknowledge their limitations, they'll get trapped into perpetually unhappy with whatever they come up with, either because it's beyond their abilities, or its too low-end to fit their imperial delusions, with end result being they end up with nothing.
Click to expand...
> I think it's actually the worst thing that could happen to it. Without J-36 they could redefine NGAD to be something more within America's limited capabilities

I think trying to dismiss the Air Force that defined Military aviation since the 1940s like that, through several major technological revolutions is fairly naive. Especially given the stupid amount of funding their MIC receives which basically equals a carte blanche in regards to funding. Not to mention that if we assume that China would be significantly ahead, you don't think large scale industrial espionage would take place? I haven't witnessed it first hand, but even I know that it was among the key defining aspects of the arms race of the First Cold War.

So while the J-36 is impressive and will fit right into Chinas vision of the next generation of combat aviation. I don't really see a reason why the US couldn't be able to come up with an equivalent that fits into their vision of the future of military aviation.

It's way too early to speculate on such matters, given that we know virtually nothing about the CAC next generation fighter and the NGAD program.
 
siegecrossbow

siegecrossbow

General
Staff member
Super Moderator
iewgnem said:
It's fun listening to Americans trying to map next gen designs into their last gen understanding.
- Every design is for sniping tankers because they can't imagine their fighters getting shot down
- J-36 is once again for projecting power to 2IC because they can't imagine losing those islands
- J-36 being mature must mean it's not as advanced because they can't imagine US is really that far behind.
- US having nothing to show for must be because US have higher requirements because they can't imagine US can't meet Chinese requirements
- China must struggle to fund all those projects because they can't imagine America is infact a far smaller economy than China.
- GCAP is a thing because they live under the delusion that UK and Japan are solvent and remotely relevant.

Some people think J-36/J-50 is great for NGAD, I think it's actually the worst thing that could happen to it. Without J-36 they could redefine NGAD to be something more within America's limited capabilities, but with J-36, J-50 and other systems, and with American refusal to acknowledge their limitations, they'll get trapped into perpetually unhappy with whatever they come up with, either because it's beyond their abilities, or its too low-end to fit their imperial delusions, with end result being they end up with nothing.
Click to expand...

Orca says that military secrecy is working since the experts completely missed the core design philosophy behind CHAD.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top